WEISS crew guys responds to WORLD 100 issue with car.

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  • Clayton_Wetter
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 16671

    #91
    Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
    Sounds like it.....and for once , Mark isn't the biggest jackass in the equation,lol.

    I hope the Weiss kid does the "killer" stomp in victory lane every time he rolls in from here on out......
    You sound like a real "Weiss" guy!!!!! hahahahaha

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14310

      #92
      Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
      To those that are saying, "what difference does 1/8" make". Think about this. If it doesn't have any kind of a benefit, why did Bloomquist build it that way?? That guy thinks two to three moves ahead all the time. He wouldn't have built it like that if it didn't have some kind of bearing on the performance of the car...
      I know for a fact that there isn't always science to back up what he does. Just like everyone else. Dude is good, but not a God. Can't even get to the races on time all the time. lol
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • CageFaraday
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 685

        #93
        Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
        To those that are saying, "what difference does 1/8" make". Think about this. If it doesn't have any kind of a benefit, why did Bloomquist build it that way?? That guy thinks two to three moves ahead all the time. He wouldn't have built it like that if it didn't have some kind of bearing on the performance of the car...
        Its a door bar and the rule was changed after the car was built. At least that is my understanding. If its true, that things are so desperate at NASA that they are calling out door bar diameter in attempts to take players off the board. That's pathetic. Obviously not motivated by a concern for anyone's safety, which is about as pathetic as you can get. Had it been a body infraction, or suspension related, or maybe engine setback, or deck height I'd be on board with calling someone out. If it really is all about a door bar, I'd be ashamed to mention it, much less cry to an official...
        It fits with Bronson's brat-ish persona.
        Last edited by CageFaraday; 09-11-2018, 04:01 PM.
        “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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        • ImCryn2
          Banned
          • Oct 2009
          • 885

          #94
          Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
          Its a door bar and the rule was changed after the car was built. At least that is my understanding. If its true, that things are so desperate at NASA that they are calling out door bar diameter in attempts to take players off the board. That's pathetic. Obviously not motivated by a concern for anyone's safety, which is about as pathetic as you can get. Had it been a body infraction, or suspension related, or maybe engine setback, or deck height I'd be on board with calling someone out. If it really is all about a door bar, I'd be ashamed to mention it, much less cry to an official...
          It fits with Bronson's brat-ish persona.
          I don't think it was a matter of rules changing if we are talking about a door bar. I've never seen anything in a rule book that allowed less than 1.5" for them. I don't see it as a big deal regardless, but there has to be a line somewhere.

          To the people that think rocket will have a different car after this, I think Mark learned his lesson the last time. That orange front car was a waste of time and money.

          So, did Bloomer copy Swartz with the reverse strut arm or did Swartz copy Bloomer? I know Swartz has been doing it for quite a while.

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          • zeroracing
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1014

            #95
            I also have never seen a rule book allow anything other than a 1.5” bar in the doors.

            My 99 Swartz had reverse mount struts on it.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14310

              #96
              Originally posted by ImCryn2 View Post
              I don't think it was a matter of rules changing if we are talking about a door bar. I've never seen anything in a rule book that allowed less than 1.5" for them. I don't see it as a big deal regardless, but there has to be a line somewhere.

              To the people that think rocket will have a different car after this, I think Mark learned his lesson the last time. That orange front car was a waste of time and money.

              So, did Bloomer copy Swartz with the reverse strut arm or did Swartz copy Bloomer? I know Swartz has been doing it for quite a while.
              Swartz has both sides reverse strut. Or at least did. This was back when Bloomquist was getting cars built at Warrior. Audie was way ahead on that.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • Illtsate32
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 3079

                #97
                CnB ive changed my tune a little on this. If Bronson or Richards or whoever did tip off wrg officials at the World, and they had this info in their back pocket, then yes I will agree that it was an attemp to get Scott penalized in some way, and that is def underhanded they should of said something right away, problem is Scott updated his new cars they prob didnt know that... but I still stand by my statement if this was any other car but Scotts or a Sweet/Bloom chassis, these people complaining opinions would be flip flopped 180 degrees...

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                • CageFaraday
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 685

                  #98
                  Originally posted by ImCryn2 View Post
                  I don't think it was a matter of rules changing if we are talking about a door bar. I've never seen anything in a rule book that allowed less than 1.5" for them. I don't see it as a big deal regardless, but there has to be a line somewhere.

                  To the people that think rocket will have a different car after this, I think Mark learned his lesson the last time. That orange front car was a waste of time and money.

                  So, did Bloomer copy Swartz with the reverse strut arm or did Swartz copy Bloomer? I know Swartz has been doing it for quite a while.
                  1. The rule was changed after 2016 when Weiss car was built, according to posts elsewhere.
                  2. No I don't think Rocket will have a different car after putting Bloomquist's on his jig, but he has tried that before as you stated. He may update his front end a bit and test.
                  3. Reverse strut is at least as old as I've been in DLM(1986).

                  Swartz has been using them for a while.

                  Warrior use to offer both styles about 10-15 years ago.

                  Custom had them on all their cars back in the 80's, which is where I first encountered it. Although the Custom(Frank McClendon) type was slightly different in that the lower control arm was one piece instead of a strut rod/control arm type, but they did face the rear.

                  Mach 1 was also rear strut similar to the Custom type but with adjustable uppers similar to Lazer, those were really neat cars, hate he got killed.
                  Last edited by CageFaraday; 09-11-2018, 10:12 PM.
                  “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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                  • Barry Seal

                    #99
                    Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                    1. The rule was changed after 2016 when Weiss car was built, according to posts elsewhere.2. No I don't think Rocket will have a different car after putting Bloomquist's on his jig, but he has tried that before as you stated. He may update his front end a bit and test.3. Reverse strut is at least as old as I've been in DLM(1986). Swartz has been using them for a while. Warrior use to offer both styles about 10-15 years ago. Custom had them on all their cars back in the 80's, which is where I first encountered it. Although the Custom(Frank McClendon) type was slightly different in that the lower control arm was one piece instead of a strut rod/control arm type, but they did face the rear. Mach 1 was also rear strut similar to the Custom type but with adjustable uppers similar to Lazer, those were really neat cars, hate he got killed.
                    This! Listen to the man.

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                    • fastford
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4059

                      #100
                      billy moyer and skip arp was running reverse struts years ago as well , it went away for a while , then moyer , and probably some others , brought it back when more clearance was required at right front when the soft rt frt set up became popular , i think about all chassis mfg,s offer that now.......

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