two day show with 32 cars?

[KDCHRLMNGE]

Unfortunately the only big late model shows I usually make it to are the Firecracker and one Lucas show, usually the Pittsburgher. I forgot about this from last year but this is a $50 ticket. They say right on their website, general admission is $50 and it's good for Friday and Saturday nights. If you can't make it Friday sorry, it's still $50 for Saturday. Is this a common thing for other Lucas shows or just a PPMS thing? Seems pretty steep for 32 cars and it could also explain the reluctance to go to a 1 day show...at least 1-1/2 times the concessions and still $50 for those who only come Saturday.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Hillbilly has it right. Cut the gimmicks. 1 night. $50k. Light the fires and kick the tires. May the best racer win.

[brsteg]

Unfortunately the only big late model shows I usually make it to are the Firecracker and one Lucas show, usually the Pittsburgher. I forgot about this from last year but this is a $50 ticket. They say right on their website, general admission is $50 and it's good for Friday and Saturday nights. If you can't make it Friday sorry, it's still $50 for Saturday. Is this a common thing for other Lucas shows or just a PPMS thing? Seems pretty steep for 32 cars and it could also explain the reluctance to go to a 1 day show...at least 1-1/2 times the concessions and still $50 for those who only come Saturday.

Up to each event promoter to set ticket prices and policies.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Hillbilly has it right. Cut the gimmicks. 1 night. $50k. Light the fires and kick the tires. May the best racer win.

Glad you edited that thought u might be drunk for a minate 😂😂😂

[Dlmfan123]

The best late model drivers in the country are here minus 2-3 there’s 15-20 lates in the pits that could win races like this one!

[MI Dirt Fan]

Glad you edited that thought you might be drunk for a minute 

Fixed yours too 😉😉😉

[waaac77]

So the logic I’m hearing from yall is if what, if there were 42 cars it would be worth a 2 day show? Really? Or 52? Why don’t we just have a one night show with 5 features and 4 of them are passing point features 20 laps each all to qualify for the 100 lap show(5th race... so exciting!!!! Then, the most guys to pass the most cars in those 4 heats tally up points to qualify them for the main event. It would be like the points chase then the he best finishers from those races go to the playoffs (100 lap feature)That way all the fans get to see so much more racing. Cus it’s all about more races. Racing racing racing. It don’t even have to make sense like Nasacar. We could do segments!!! That way all you ADHD millennials from the suburbs can stay engaged. Pop some pills a go racin. Yeah!!!!!!!!! Just keep dumbing it up for all us old school guys. Gotta evolve and appease the masses screw the loyal fans.im fed up with all you babies. Bunch of little babies

[t3r3e3]

Just a quick thought, make Friday double heats with passing points? A big track where you can pass, shouldn't be a problem. I know car count is kind of low, if Midway wasn't running I am sure that would help car count.

Would give you more racing for your dollar.

Midway not running might have netted 2-4 more cars. Pittsburgh is a big engine, hard on equipment venue. Most of the guys running the MOV don't have a big track bullet to run the 5/8. Mineral Wells has been closed for 5 years, so no one needs that kind of engine. Moran might've shown. The Moyers chose to run against the KY locals at Burnside. Hard to say who else would have shown up.

[wimpyrox]

I keep hearing about this big track, hard on engine stuff. I don't buy it. Back in the day, they ran WVMS and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Motor Speedway with engines that were built in back yard garages and nowhere near as refined as they are now. And they still ran fast, raced and won. I just don't buy that argument. Just my opinion.

[hucktyson]

Back in the day you speak of heat races were 20-21 second laps here and you had to lift every corner or you would knock the fence down ... bloomer hit 16.9’s in his heat and now if you lift you get lapped ... YES that is very hard on motors

[chupp n bloomer fan]

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So the logic I’m hearing from yall is if what, if there were 42 cars it would be worth a 2 day show? Really? Or 52? Why don’t we just have a one night show with 5 features and 4 of them are passing point features 20 laps each all to qualify for the 100 lap show(5th race... so exciting!!!! Then, the most guys to pass the most cars in those 4 heats tally up points to qualify them for the main event. It would be like the points chase then the he best finishers from those races go to the playoffs (100 lap feature)That way all the fans get to see so much more racing. Cus it’s all about more races. Racing racing racing. It don’t even have to make sense like Nasacar. We could do segments!!! That way all you ADHD millennials from the suburbs can stay engaged. Pop some pills a go racin. Yeah!!!!!!!!! Just keep dumbing it up for all us old school guys. Gotta evolve and appease the masses screw the loyal fans.im fed up with all you babies. Bunch of little babies

Who has ADHD now? Or Dementia? Or acting like a millennial?

No one is poppin their top but you, use actual thought out sentences and say why you love a two day show for 32 cars with one feature.

Examples of places who have changed their format, for the fans and the racers. And races held this weekend that were two complete shows.

Lake Cumberland, Greenville, DTWC, Eldora, N/S, Atomic, and so on. PPMS and I think the Jackson 100 are the old format. If you like that, great, most don’t. It’s another night in a hotel, and or a days work missed. Not a millennial, but those who are 45-65 created them, so blame them too.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I keep hearing about this big track, hard on engine stuff. I don't buy it. Back in the day, they ran WVMS and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Motor Speedway with engines that were built in back yard garages and nowhere near as refined as they are now. And they still ran fast, raced and won. I just don't buy that argument. Just my opinion.

They are way more hooked up now, with engines with tighter tolerances. A lot of people do not have the wide bore, top of line motors. And yes it does matter. See WVMS. Now they ended up closing because of promoters, owners not working things out. I wanna say the Mennonites I think it was still own it.

[Highside Hustler25]

I think they should switch it sort of to the way Fairbury does it!

Bingo. FALS tinkered around with a couple different formats before establishing what I think is the perfect ticket. 4 qualifying 25 lap features on night 1. Then the big show on night 2. Wish more tracks would do the same.

[TerryM]

I keep hearing about this big track, hard on engine stuff. I don't buy it. Back in the day, they ran WVMS and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Motor Speedway with engines that were built in back yard garages and nowhere near as refined as they are now. And they still ran fast, raced and won. I just don't buy that argument. Just my opinion.

Drivers hated WVMS. Believe me, I heard them say it all the time.

[kazual]

Haven’t been to the Pittsburgh track so my feeling is more general than specific to them. Always gets me when a fan suggests throwing another 50-100k at the purse as their solution to a short field or less than an optimal fan experience, think that was one of the thoughts of a person posting here. That’s more about their fantasies rather than the track’s best interest. Race tracks are a business not a money loosing proposition just for the fans benefit. Seems to me the only way that track owners make much money is if their land is acquired and used for another purpose. Some few tracks are profitable no doubt but the majority are marginally profitable if at all, in fact many loose money on a regular basis. As a rule tracks do not change hands allowing the owner to profit from the sale. More often it’s because the track is in financial dire straights and they are looking to unload it. Look, there’s been much debate on track managers and scrutiny of owners and promoters and it’s well deserved. And as said earlier I know zip about Pittsburgh, maybe an overhaul of the format and event is prudent to look at. But people who have never owned or promoted a race track and suggest the solution is laying out more cash don’t get a lot of credibility with me.