Rank these late model careers

[MI Dirt Fan]

How about doing a money won over a career? Would be interesting.

I don't know how we would get exact numbers. That would take a year atleast of research and probably quite a few dead ends.

[formercrewguy]

I don't know how we would get exact numbers. That would take a year atleast of research and probably quite a few dead ends.

Probably right. But I'll put 1 guy in the top 10...…..Donnie Moran!! lol

[MI Dirt Fan]

Oh I'm sure most in the top tens listed here would be in it. lol

[fastford]

Counting - Crown Jewel wins, Tour Championships, along with longevity (how long they've been good).
Bloomquist
Moyer
Owens
O'Neal
McDowell
Davenport
Pearson
Richards
Eckert
Frank
McCreadie
Lanigan

Honorable Mention
Mars, Birkhofer, Clanton

forgot about oneal , i think you are right on HDF , i will go with your list........

[CageFaraday]

TOP 10: "Active Drivers"

1.) Billy Moyer - In my opinion, undoubtedly the best driver of all time.
6x Globes, 6x UMP Sumer Nats Champ, 5x USA Nats, 2x Dream, 835 Wins...
2.) Scott Bloomquist - Scott I think may be a tick sharper on setup than Moyer, but also a tick less on driving.
3.) Dale McDowell - World 100, Dream, USA Nats, Hav-A-Tampa Title & Shootout
4.) Don O'Neal - Lucas oil title, Dream, DTWC, HAT Shootout
5.) Ronnie Johnson - DTWC x2, SAS Champion, Won during NDRA era, etc.
6.) Jimmy Owens - Maybe the best 5 year stretch in late model history.
7.) Jonathan Davenport - 2015, best year ever for a late model driver, Lucas oil 2x, etc.
8.) Chris Madden - Because I think he's earned a place on the list.
9.) Shane Clanton - World 100, WoO Title, Dream, 2x Mag 100, etc.
10.) Shannon Babb - Topless, HAT Shootout, UMP, etc.


* I originally had Josh #9 and BShep #10, but I thought of a few more and they are both young. My list does NOT reflect current performance but the breadth of their careers in total. Honestly I could've gone with 15.

** 6 thru 10 were difficult to differentiate as I see them as of equal talent and capability.

*** Had this list included inactive drivers as well I would've put:
Donnie Moran #3
Freddie Smith #4
Larry Moore #5
Buck Simmons #6

[MI Dirt Fan]

I still don't understand why winning the World basically defines your career. Tony Stewart never won the 500 but can be considered one of the best drivers ever in NASCAR.

[CageFaraday]

I still don't understand why winning the World basically defines your career.

Because its tough to do and for a couple of decades 150+ other guys were in your way. Because the 500 ain't what it use to be, its more about the car and blind luck.

[Dlmfan123]

Scott Bloomquist, billy Moyer and Donnie moran are my top 3

[MI Dirt Fan]

3 of the 6 came with 200+ cars. Not disputing. Just putting the facts there

If someone won 6 World 100's and nothing else would that automatically define thier career as the best ever then?

[JabberJaws83]

Bloomquist
Moyer
Owens
Davenport
O’Neal
EPJ
Mcreadie
Richards
McDowell
Eckert

[MI Dirt Fan]

Just a side note. DoD does recognize Babb as the 2004 Lucas Oil champion. I know the schedule isn't comparable to what it is now but just putting it out there.

[TBSprintFan]

3 of the 6 came with 200+ cars.

If someone won 6 World 100's and nothing else would that automatically define thier career as the best ever then?

There will never be a system to call 1 driver or sports athlete the Greatest of all Time or GOAT. I am a fan of Scott Bloomquist, but most people on here calling him the Greatest of all Time never saw the full careers of such drivers as Buck Simmons, Jeff Purvis, Larry Moore, etc. (myself included) and some of these drivers were racing well before the 1st World 100 which was in 1971 and most of these so called crown jewels are only less than 20 years old (but back then there may have been other big races which would have been considered a crown jewel now). Plus how many more drivers were at races before which made it harder to win. This is from the Grammarphobia website

The word “goat” has been used in American sports since the early 1900s, first as a derisive term for a player responsible for a team’s loss, and later, often in capital letters, as an acronym for “greatest of all time.”

and this also

the earliest example we could find for “G.O.A.T.” used to mean ”greatest of all time” is from September 1992, when Lonnie Ali, Muhammad Ali’s wife, incorporated Greatest of All Time, Inc. (G.O.A.T. Inc.) to consolidate and license her husband’s intellectual properties for commercial purposes.

So to call Bloomquist or any other person the Greatest of all Time is just bull $hit.

[ZERO25]

Bloomquist
Owens
Richards
Moyer
EPJ
McDowell
Davenport
O'Neal
Madden

[MI Dirt Fan]

TBsprintfan

The top 10 was for active drivers only and there was no mention of anyone being called a goat or and other references of that.

[Kwd1253]

Since Phil not around at this moment I might as well speak for him.

Phil ,"it don't matter who you put 2nd-10th. There only one name matter on that list, that is BLOOMQUIST aka black sunshine bka THE G.O.A.T". 😂😂😂