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  • Illtsate32
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 3079

    #1

    Tours vs Outlaw

    With a lot of the top talent drivers going to outlaw schedules, do you think there could be a way for the tours to work together? I think they should reduce the number of points races to around 20-25 max, mini tours, and spread out the races through the year to 2-3 races a month. And not schedule against each other. How great would it be if the top 20 drivers in the country could run every race and compete for the title in both series. Talk about bragging rights to take home both titles. You could have the two series champions and then an overall points champion that paid like 250,000 to win. I think that would be awesome...why or why not could this ever happen?...
    Last edited by Illtsate32; 11-21-2018, 08:35 PM.
  • dch191
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 458

    #2
    I think it would be a neat idea and cool to see eventually but I don’t think it’ll happen anytime soon simply because there’s not a real need for it. As long as Lucas and WoO are getting full fields and fans are willing to pay to see them as is then what’s the motivation from the promoters standpoint to change what’s already working.

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    • CageFaraday
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 685

      #3
      Would rather see both National series dissolve and everyone go outlaw. Bragging rights don't feed mouths or pay bills or rebuild engines... Bragging is for fools.
      “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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      • Illtsate32
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 3079

        #4
        Dch I agree with you. Its just that now days everybody wants to measure someones sucess on how well they do on a tour and its what seems to draw most peoples interest. I was just thinking up a way where drivers and fans alike could get what we all seem to want...

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        • Illtsate32
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 3079

          #5
          I liked it better when it was more about bragging rights and guys did it to say im the fastest and best at what I do, not to pay bills or feed a family...

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          • huskerdirt
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 5620

            #6
            I would like to see something like the Big Johnson national championship happened. A certain amount of select races each year that didn’t over lap with either tour. Maybe do 10-12 races total. The 2 at Eldora and then 4-5 from each series that come into play.

            Both national series are very healthy right now for tracks. You’ll be hard pressed to find a promoter that will drop a tour show to go unsanctioned.

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            • CageFaraday
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 685

              #7
              Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
              I liked it better when it was more about bragging rights and guys did it to say im the fastest and best at what I do, not to pay bills or feed a family...
              As far back as I'm aware, in my lifetime of 48 years, some have raced for fun(hobby) others raced to make a living. Club racing is typically for bragging rights, but not anybody on a tour. Once racing includes prize money it's game on. Its up to the individual as to how they pursue it, but as long as money is involved somebody is gonna try and take it home.
              “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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              • Illtsate32
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 3079

                #8
                Absolutely husker, any kind of little series to get all the best racers in the country to participate in...imo the series are too strenuous, a guy might be able to run 99% of the schedule but if he misses one race they will drop off cause you cant afford to miss any...
                Last edited by Illtsate32; 11-21-2018, 09:54 PM.

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                • ALLDIRT
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 1214

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                  Would rather see both National series dissolve and everyone go outlaw. Bragging rights don't feed mouths or pay bills or rebuild engines... Bragging is for fools.
                  There ya go .

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                  • Illtsate32
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 3079

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                    As far back as I'm aware, in my lifetime of 48 years, some have raced for fun(hobby) others raced to make a living. Club racing is typically for bragging rights, but not anybody on a tour. Once racing includes prize money it's game on. Its up to the individual as to how they pursue it, but as long as money is involved somebody is gonna try and take it home.
                    Cage I wasnt disagreeing with ya, it wouldnt bother me if they dissolved the tours either, but since thats the direction its took in recent years I was just thinking of ways to get the best racers together as much as possible...

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                    • ALLDIRT
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1214

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                      Would rather see both National series dissolve and everyone go outlaw. Bragging rights don't feed mouths or pay bills or rebuild engines... Bragging is for fools.
                      The tour has taken away the big races like the world , and the DTWC for weekly events .
                      And don't draw the crowds that pay the big money . for bigger races . More fun for the fans .
                      Just one opinion . That's the races that are gone .

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                      • Josh Bayko
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 8736

                        #12
                        The tours already do a decent job of staying off each other’s big dates. A number of years ago, there was some talk about cosanctiong a couple races, but it never happened and the circumstances that would have allowed it to happen are no more.
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                        • edavis71
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2014

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                          As far back as I'm aware, in my lifetime of 48 years, some have raced for fun(hobby) others raced to make a living. Club racing is typically for bragging rights, but not anybody on a tour. Once racing includes prize money it's game on. Its up to the individual as to how they pursue it, but as long as money is involved somebody is gonna try and take it home.
                          I grew up in Worthington, send me a PM. Would love to chat and know what is going on back home.

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                          • rdcllk
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 243

                            #14
                            Many race tracks depend on these series for there yearly profits. With out them. Track would be closing. We don't need any more of that. There's enough cars and fans to support the series. So why drop the race count? Real fans want more races not less

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                            • bleedblue55
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1872

                              #15
                              Originally posted by edavis71 View Post
                              I grew up in Worthington, send me a PM. Would love to chat and know what is going on back home.
                              Barrackville here, small world sometimes

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