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  • ImCryn2
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 885

    #16
    Originally posted by TMaCiLLiNi39 View Post
    He drew a 1 last year too.... so yes... luck 2 years in a row
    Just curious, where did Bloomer start when he won? I honestly don't remember and I'm not asking to pick on him I'm asking because he has been the only other late model winner there. If it was as easy as drawing the #1 pill we should have just ended the night after the redraw.

    If the other guys were better than he was last night they would have found their way around just as Harrison did in the modified feature.

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    • Bradley
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 267

      #17
      Originally posted by TMaCiLLiNi39 View Post
      He drew a 1 last year too.... so yes... luck 2 years in a row
      You mean he put himself in a position the last 2 years to have a chance to draw the pole position? You just don't walk in and get a chance to be on the pole for the main event. Thank's for playing !

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      • TMaCiLLiNi39
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 1321

        #18
        Last year he finished 4th in the prelim and drew the 1.... which I thought was a complete f’n joke... this year I don’t have near an issue because he won the prelim... but it’s still luck to pull the 1...

        I thought last year is wasn’t fair for Gordy and Hudson to win and draw the 6 and 7 pills... I think the draw honestly should only be for the top 2 in the Prelims... you can honestly win a prelim and start 8th and that’s exactly what happened to BShepp... that’s not good for anyone... why be punished for winning?
        Last edited by TMaCiLLiNi39; 12-03-2018, 01:41 AM.

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        • CageFaraday
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2017
          • 685

          #19
          I'm Booby Freakin' Peirce and I approved this message

          Originally posted by Bradley View Post
          Yeah very very lucky 2 years in a row huh ? SMFH get real fella
          I'm not the one who started saying it was all luck to win at gateway, but whats good for the goose is good for the gander. You can't have it both ways, so you get real. Booby fans no different than Scotty fans, only Scotty has classier t-shirts.
          “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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          • ImCryn2
            Banned
            • Oct 2009
            • 885

            #20
            Most redraws I've seen are the top 6 or 8 qualifiers. I don't have a problem with whatever they choose to do as long as everyone knows before the show starts.

            I didn't really care for the provisionals tho, simply because it was a non points event. I understand them for touring series races, but once a year races, I don't. I kinda understand Moyers because it had to do with the event THIS YEAR and he had to perform at this years event at some point to get it. I think Scott WOULD have raced his way in had he needed to, but he mentioned early in the event that he had a provisional so I can't help but think he didn't put in his best effort. That takes away from the show when drivers don't give it their all. IMO Overall, not a huge deal. I just think the show is always better when big names like Scott are all in.

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            • Barbecueboy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #21
              Originally posted by smooth32 View Post
              If Pierce bangs the wall or gets into somebody, there is 15+ pages of how he cant drive or is a dirty driver. Usually when he wins you hear excuse as to why he won. "he started on the front row", "he cant win on the bottom", "bloomer was testing", "track was crap". I get a chuckle because there is never pages and pages of his fans bragging about him like the 4m faithful constantly say happens. Yesterday he won $30000 and today crickets!
              Because most times when drivers win when expected they and their fans act like they have been there before.....it's just a guess.
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • fastford
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4059

                #22
                Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                Schlenk won too and according to some it was luck of the draw. I don't see how Bobby's win could be classified any different. Same track, same event weekend, a gimic, a glorified demo-derby that pays well if your very, very lucky. Congrats to Bobby on his early Christmas gift of an over sized check.
                yep cage , i was already thinking the same thing when i read your post , but im not hating on neither one , congrats to both , maybe it will give rusty and CJ a boost and bobby can probably use the money........

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                • Jking24
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 1519

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ImCryn2 View Post
                  Most redraws I've seen are the top 6 or 8 qualifiers. I don't have a problem with whatever they choose to do as long as everyone knows before the show starts. I didn't really care for the provisionals tho, simply because it was a non points event. I understand them for touring series races, but once a year races, I don't. I kinda understand Moyers because it had to do with the event THIS YEAR and he had to perform at this years event at some point to get it. I think Scott WOULD have raced his way in had he needed to, but he mentioned early in the event that he had a provisional so I can't help but think he didn't put in his best effort. That takes away from the show when drivers don't give it their all. IMO Overall, not a huge deal. I just think the show is always better when big names like Scott are all in.
                  Im not a Scott fan or a hater .i don't know if you were their or not and i haven't watched the dod coverage so i don't know if they showed it but scott made every effort to trace his way in. He about totaled his car in the b main trying to get every position he could if he was just planning on riding and taking a provisional he would have never made the move that ultimately ended his night. He more or less drove right into a wreck because he couldn't see that far ahead and was gonna pass the couple of guys in the back that were whoing up. He was definitely trying to get all he could get all weekend he even tried to race after being in a wreck once

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                  • RaceEngineer
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 482

                    #24
                    Originally posted by grt74 View Post
                    no doubt being up front helped, but he had the best car, he wasn't grabbing the ruts, like all the other cars, he was on the gas and floating threw the holes,
                    Did he run his world 100 device again?

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                    • Kwd1253
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2262

                      #25
                      This how I really view the gateway event last 3 years. First you have to qualify good and win your heat, win your preliminary race come in 2nd. You don’t want start no less than 3rd row to have chance to win it. But truth is pretty much who starts on first row, one out of the two going win it. Luck of redraw yes, but you have to have the skills to put your self in the redraw for starting in the first row. Bobby in the last 2 years put himself in the position to get redraw for starting on the first row.

                      Pretty much how I view the gateway every year so far. That the reason It’s not my cup of tea really, I Enjoy the show they put on still tho.

                      The driver that had the most luck on their side was Moyer jr. lucky to get a provisional spot. Dead last to 6th, you have to have some really good luck to get around the cars that pile up and not be part of the pile ups. Lot times the pile up are started from the front runners and the drivers behind the catch the aftermath from it. Or drivers driving way to aggressive “Babb” for that small tight track.

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                      • Illtsate32
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 3079

                        #26
                        You maybe right about the winner coming from the top few rows, Bobbys the exception, he could win it from anywhere, he didnt run the top cause he didnt have to but even if he would of started 8th he would of cleaned the top off and found a way to the lead..Sheppard was gna get up there and change Bobbys strategy until he got a flat trust me...
                        Last edited by Illtsate32; 12-03-2018, 07:12 PM.

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                        • Kwd1253
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2262

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
                          You maybe right about the winner coming from the top few rows, Bobbys the exemption, he could win it from anywhere, he didnt run the top cause he didnt have to but even if he would of started 8th he would of cleaned the top off and found a way to the lead..Sheppard was gna get up there and change Bobbys strategy until he got a flat trust me...
                          Don’t think bobby would won it if started in the of the field. You run the top you have high chance knocking the deck off. You stay up there long enough the wall going grab you. Babb just as good as Bobby and shepp running the top. Don’t forget 2016 Bobby hurt himself to win it because he started way to far back in the pack.

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                          • Josh Bayko
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 8757

                            #28
                            It’s threads like this that are the reason this board tends to hate Pierce fans.
                            Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

                            Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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                            • CageFaraday
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 685

                              #29
                              No exceptions.
                              “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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                              • Bradley
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 267

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                                I'm not the one who started saying it was all luck to win at gateway, but whats good for the goose is good for the gander. You can't have it both ways, so you get real. Booby fans no different than Scotty fans, only Scotty has classier t-shirts.
                                I guess it's a good thing that I really ain't a Bobby or Bobby fan then.I really don't have a favorite,I do tend to like seeing Owens and Hudson oneal run well though.

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