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  • dch191
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 458

    #1

    Gateway Dirt Nationals

    I just saw on Twitter that the GDN official page put a poll up asking if they should do invite only for late models next year. What’s you guys opinions? Right now the results are about 50/50 on Twitter. Me personally I think if invitation style is good enough for midgets and mods then it’s good enough for late models. Ideally I’d like to see open entry (up to a certain number of entries) for all 3 classes but I know that’s not necessarily feasible.

    I also saw a tweet from Cody saying dates for the next 3 years will be announced soon which is great to hear the event will be back.
  • zyoung25
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 8943

    #2
    I'd just like to know what has to take place for a driver to get a invite? Let's take Welshan and Zobrist for instance. Those guys dont hardly travel or race against the bigger names in the sport very much at all. I'd hate to see them get shunned because they didn't do whatever they had to do to get an invite. Even if it is just winning a race at your local race track, we all know that doesn't come very easy anymore to begin with.

    I think invite only will definetly help the quality of cars be better. I'm not so sure it would help the racing though. I think the track quality should be the number one thing they should tackle. That's just my opinion.

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    • dch191
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 458

      #3
      That’s why I’m kinda torn on the invite thing. On one hand for guys like Zobrist and Welshan, this event has allowed them to get their name out there way more than they could otherwise and would likely not get an invite if it wasn’t for their performances at the dome. It’d be doing a huge disservice to guys like that. But at the same time if you want to speed up the show and keep the track in better shape, then I think the easiest way to do that is by limiting entries. Like I said I’d love to see open entries for all 3 classes but I also know that the track can’t handle the abuse of 300+ cars over 3 days.

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      • dch191
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 458

        #4
        A format I would like to see is make it a full show each night but only run 2 classes each night. Run midgets/mods Thursday, supers/midgets Friday, mods/supers Saturday for example. In theory that would allow you to have more cars in each class but run fewer total laps on the track each night.

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        • chathamracefan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1031

          #5
          Another take on that would be to have a pre qualifying type of show on Wednesday. Guys not invited could show up & run. Top 10 or some other # get to move on & run the rest of the weekend. This should also help the track get run in more for the rest of the week also.

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          • MI Dirt Fan
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 8806

            #6
            If I may, quote the infamous huskerdirt.

            "Ok. Thanks."

            http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?387896-Gateway

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            • Mantis
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 287

              #7
              Maybe have multiple "qualifying" type races throughout the year at at different tracks with some type of Gateway point system to gain an invitation.

              Just a thought.....

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              • Jking24
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 1512

                #8
                Definitely a double edge sword. the event really can't continue to grow if the entrys are limited. B. Look at a guy like Logan Roberson that was his only super start of the year and he definitely deserved to be their from a performance standpoint. I think maybe a modified format maybe something like eldora where Thursday their is time trials and only x amount move forward and maybe the rest can go to a tow money race with the option of racing the rest of the weekend

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                • dirt crow
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3596

                  #9
                  No to super invites
                  2023 Races - WoO at TST

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                  • CILDirt
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 261

                    #10
                    I would have to lean towards no on the invite. I think they should look at improving the track conditions more for LM’s. Add another barrier height of bank in each corner and find someone that can work it to keep the holes out. Better track surface = better racing and less cautions.

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                    • DLC
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2018
                      • 341

                      #11
                      I say NO. That sounds to much like discrimination to me.JMO.
                      2021 tracks
                      Florence 2
                      Atomic 2
                      (PPV) & Streams ( 2 many)
                      (MMP) 1
                      (PRP) 3
                      (BrushCreek) 1
                      (the Rock) 1

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                      • HoosierDirtFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 22186

                        #12
                        My answer to the poll - As I posted on twitter yesterday.
                        H*!! NO. Because then you take away from guys like Chad Zorbist, Jeff Herzog, & Jason Welshan who would be there if they where able to do so.
                        If you go by invite do they get one each year they want to be there.
                        The World isn't by invite so why should this be.
                        It's racing.
                        Not a popularity contest.
                        Which I'll bet it would turn into!
                        I go to races to see the locals just as I go to see the stars race.
                        I want to see a race not a popularity pageant.
                        Last edited by HoosierDirtFan; 12-20-2018, 02:49 PM.
                        Nathan Stephens

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                        • LMNED10
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 131

                          #13
                          What about all the regional super late model tour champions from across the country, since 99% season is over with by that time of year, I think that would be a cool deal

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                          • fryefan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3547

                            #14
                            They definitely need to do that because the shows are way too long. I heard several people say they were not coming back if they did not do something to get the shows over sooner.
                            Last edited by fryefan; 12-20-2018, 10:19 PM.

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                            • TTS_JF
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2091

                              #15
                              I don't like the invite, for the same reasons mentioned above. Also on the mods there's nothing clear cut as to what gets you an invite. I'm not trying to knock Pierce for racing all 3 classes but he took a spot from a mod driver by racing that class.
                              T3G - Never Forget, Hardly Remember
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