WOO points vs. LUCAS points

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  • TUTY
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 1243

    #1

    WOO points vs. LUCAS points

    Seems WOO has a good thing going using the best 2 nights out of 4 in Volusia. Top 6 are within 26 points of each other. 225 points separate LUCAS from 6th to 1st, but I know points are calculated a bit different. Jimmy Owens in 10th and 320 points behind, not good. 10th place for WOO is rookie Kyle Hardy only 70 points off the leader.
  • bullring
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 947

    #2
    If East Bay did that it wouldn't definitely change things up for the early week shows. Plus like you say it shouldnt put guys in a deep hole to start the points hunt.

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    • PushinTheLimit
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 465

      #3
      WoO points and Lucas points are completely different formats.

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      • huskerdirt
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 5620

        #4
        Originally posted by TUTY View Post
        Seems WOO has a good thing going using the best 2 nights out of 4 in Volusia. Top 6 are within 26 points of each other. 225 points separate LUCAS from 6th to 1st, but I know points are calculated a bit different. Jimmy Owens in 10th and 320 points behind, not good. 10th place for WOO is rookie Kyle Hardy only 70 points off the leader.
        Lol.

        All it takes is two bad races and that 320 point margin down to nothing.

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        • Zonks32x
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 966

          #5
          Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
          Lol.

          All it takes is two bad races and that 320 point margin down to nothing.
          Very true...but from 10th place a guy needs more than a couple drivers to have 2 bad nights. I think Owens will be just fine.

          I think the confusion is b/c of how different the points format is in both series.

          Husker is correct...based on how they calculate points, a 320 point lead in Lucas is nowhere near as big of a gap as a 70 point lead on WoO.

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          • Snake X3
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 1524

            #6
            The easiest way to describe the difference between Lucas and WoO points is that Lucas uses a system that rewards winning and finishing up front. WoO's system is SIMILAR to NA$$CRAP's point per position system. In other words, it's much easier to points race your way to a championship on the WoO tour since it rewards consistency.

            Maybe I'll try to give a comparative breakdown of the two systems. They are about as different as possible. No system is better than the other, but they do have very different ways of winning a title.

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            • Snake X3
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 1524

              #7
              Okay, what I did here was multiply the WoO points table by 1.33 so that both series gave out 200 pts for winning a race. There are other ways to earn points, like for fast time qualifying but just straight up point systems work like this....

              Lucas WoO
              1 - 200 - - - 200
              2 - 180 - - - 194
              3 - 170 - - - 192
              4 - 160 - - - 189
              5 - 155 - - - 186
              6 - 150 - - - 184
              7 - 145 - - - 181
              8 - 140 - - - 178
              9 - 135 - - - 176
              10 - 130 - - - 173
              11 - 125 - - - 170
              12 - 120 - - - 168
              13 - 115 - - - 165
              14 - 110 - - - 162
              15 - 105 - - - 160
              16 - 100 - - - 157
              17 - 95 - - - 154
              18 - 90 - - - 152
              19 - 85 - - - 149
              20 - 80 - - - 146
              21 - 75 - - - 144
              22 - 75 - - - 141
              23 - 75 - - - 138
              24 - 75 - - - 136
              25 - 75 - - - 133
              26 - 70 - - - 130


              So as you can see, if Kyle Hardy was 70 points back on the Lucas tour, that is the difference between finishing 1st and finishing 10th. On the WoO tour that would be the difference between finishing 1st and finishing 26th. Of course Hardy would acutally be 91 points behind (70*1.3) on this scale, which like Owens, is more than a full race behind the leader AND with a much harder road to make up that difference.

              Owens being 300 points behind on the Lucas tour isn't even something you can calculate like that. Suffice to say, he's really far back. But Bloomer was what? 400 points behind after Speedweeks and he got within 100 at one point I think, so it is doable because Lucas points give a greater reward for winning.
              Last edited by Snake X3; 02-17-2019, 02:50 PM.

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              • NormP
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 2262

                #8
                Interesting breakdown Snake. I think there's more competitive drivers on the WoO this year than years past when Lucas was obviously tougher, but the way WoO scores points isn't my cup of tea.

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                • Snake X3
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 1524

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NormP View Post
                  Interesting breakdown Snake. I think there's more competitive drivers on the WoO this year than years past when Lucas was obviously tougher, but the way WoO scores points isn't my cup of tea.
                  I think both tours combined are weaker overall since they lost Pierce, Marlar, Eckert, Saterlee and Zeigler just for starters.

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