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  • rmrc
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 136

    #1

    Open Letter to UMP

    Sam

    As you know, I've been involved with racing for a long time, 55 years to be exact. This has given me a unique perspective on our sport. Right now, I think that weekly DLM racing is in deep trouble. On the National level, we have allowed the big $$ teams to dictate the rule packages which we race under. As weekly racers, it's no longer possible to compete with the travelling teams, yet we race under the same rules package. You know as well as I do that this is driving racers away from weekly tracks. We simply can't keep going in this direction. We can't restrict engines, there's already too many wide bore and exotic engines out there. We can't regulate shocks, even though they're out of control. We CAN however regulate the bodies. (1) Bring the noses back to 48" with a variation of 2" from side to side. That will also increase the angle of the noses, reducing the wedge effect. (2) The decks should return to flat and level. Use a string line from the back of the hood to the base of the spoiler. The deck must not deviate more than 1" from the string. (3) Reduce the spoiler height to 6". (4) remove the "dish" from the right side doors.

    All of the above changes will work to unhook the cars, taking away some of the engine dependence. These things can all be measured quickly, using only a tape measure. There are other places that can be addressed but those 4 simple changes will help. Additionally, maybe it's time to put a group together a group of racers, promoters, owners and builders to discuss where we are headed. I'm talking about weekly guys, not national racers! Let's work together to bring Bob Memmer's vision back to weekly racing. It's time to divorce ourselves from the National touring series. The "Next Level" isn't working out as we thought!
  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #2
    Denied...

    Makes to much sense.

    Just say no...

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16433

      #3
      Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
      Denied...

      Makes to much sense.
      Aint the truth...…………………………………… …………………...

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      • waaac77
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2015
        • 629

        #4
        You can make all the rules you want but if they’re not enforced then you got nothing. A committee of well known respectable previous drivers, promoters, owners and builders is the only way to enforce the rules and keep everyone in check.

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        • CornSmoker
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 162

          #5
          Put the left rear spring/shock package back "IN FRONT" of the rearend at the same relative angle as the right rear spring/shock. No traction shock on rear end. Get rid of the open windows in the tail wing to help kill the aero package. Shorten up the nose piece at least 12". and last , but not least, a total of 5 spring/shock package total on the car, with no progressive springs. Then and only then will DLM racing survive at weekly race tracks. BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Dumbass Richie ruined it after the Davenport year, and the Wedding Photographer and the spineless WoO director have no balls to get DLM racing back on track.

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          • Illtsate32
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 3079

            #6
            Yes! Good point about the nose they got the nose angle down and the a** up for the deck to catch all the air, and the shocks ya idk horse is out of the barn but there are things to do like was said to cut back on the traction and make engines and shocks less effective, they arent twisting all these bodies up for looks thats for sure...

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            • Kromulous
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3008

              #7
              Just cutting the spoiler to 6" would make a healthy impact.

              Add in a max spoiler angle, around 70* from horizontal, not the decking, would also further that impact.

              Just say no...

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              • Krooser
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 3117

                #8
                Add 100lbs to cars with wide bore engines and have a spec shock package.
                Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
                Class of 2019

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                • MittenMadman
                  Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 88

                  #9
                  Sounds great but it’ll never happen. Piss off to many people that have the money and money talks.

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                  • rmrc
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 136

                    #10
                    That was one of my points, the sanctioning bodies are allowing 10-12 teams make the rules. That HAS to change.

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                    • IZZOJR16
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2176

                      #11
                      Super Late Models have evolved way past weekly shows.

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                      • IZZOJR16
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2176

                        #12
                        No matter what rules you make teams will find a way to exploit the rules and run up the cost of everything. Its the nature of the beast. Money will always = speed. Thats the purpose of racing, to be the fastest.

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                        • racincowboy02
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1056

                          #13
                          I don't think you will see weekly super racing around much longer even at the tracks you see them out now unless they are going to pay anywhere between 5-7500 to win weekly

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                          • dirtcrazy4u
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 3212

                            #14
                            I like all this talk about teams. The manufacturer puts out the product and if it is a good product. Well, reach deep into those pockets boys. And to be competitive what are teams suppose to do ? Sure some guys have said no I am not going to by a wide bore motor, or I'm not going to buy that new chassis. Well the guys that do say great. Less competition for me. You can't change the rules. You would make so much equipment obsolete, then what ? Fans want to see the top guys race, period, and those guys are going to spend what it takes. As a fan, and if you implement all the changes in this topic. Are you going to sit in the stands and watch them ? Crate racing draws a huge fan base huh. Me personally I wish woo, better yet, wrg would go away, but we all understand that is not going to happen. Tony Stewart's new Ford motor in sprint car racing, they get the bugs worked out and the money teams are going to have to spend will be outrageous. Or run for a top 10 instead of a top 5. Boy, I can't wait.

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                            • fastford
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4059

                              #15
                              unfortunately , i agree with dirtcrazy , also in reference to the original post , you can take all the aero away you want to , BUT , by not limiting shocks , springs and there placement , cubic dollars will still have an advantage , and im not jealous of this , what does irritate me is rules that limit my using my brain to find an advantage and that being taken away , ie: rumley device...........JMO......

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