How long before we lose Hud to NASCAR?

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  • WisWildManFan
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 3217

    #16
    Brad lost money when he won championship in trucks... everyone needs money
    Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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    • Josh Bayko
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 8737

      #17
      I don’t really think NASCAR is the dream for a lot of drivers anymore.
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      Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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      • Swampy121
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 326

        #18
        Seems like the dream for many drivers now is go to Nascar for a little while to make money then come back to dirt and actually have fun. Like Stewart did.

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        • champion24
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 3065

          #19
          Brad K was probably the last driver to get a solid ride without $$!! Larson, Bell, others at least have/had OEM $$ behind them to get in! All racing is "too expensive" to some level these days! As far as Hud, and other young talented drivers, they aren't enough seats to get into to really test out higher levels! We have many Millionaires in our dirt world, but only 1 Billionaire that could write a check for anyone anywhere!! Luckily he backs an entire series, and not a World conquering super team!!

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          • Barbecueboy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 18116

            #20
            Post 17 is on the money Josh......and if you just love it what better way to do it than on the dirt.
            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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            • dirtcrazy4u
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 3212

              #21
              Hudson has made the comment more than once. He'd like to drive a sprint car, I think if the opportunity ever came along that is were you may see him. For now, I'm sure, for his age he is quite happy driving a SLM on the Lucas tour. Personally I always said Ole bloomie should be looking at this kid to take over the seat of the team 0 car. O well, his lose.

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              • riddle28
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1084

                #22
                also, larson got to cup with help from the drive for diversity program. not saying that alone did it but it got his foot in the door early

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                • JCSullivan00
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1418

                  #23
                  Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                  Yep its money now a days. While it has always been money to a certain extent, is it getting harder to make it on talent? It seems sprint car type racing is more likely to get attention than DLM. Lately Chris Bell and Kyle Larson for sure. A few other drivers made it through talent and breaks too. I truly don't know the details on how many of others made it to Nascar, but there is a path, how much money comes, I am not always sure. Nascar is getting better at finding outstanding talent though. DLM just have never produced that many Nascar drivers so far. One thing for Sure. Bryon, Bell, Larson, Eric Jones, Cole Custer got noticed and there have been others. Blaney and Elliot had connections but they are top of the line, with or without help. Its tricky I guess, but there seems to be a lot of ways to get attention these days.
                  Cole Custer didn't "Get Noticed" lol.

                  His dad is the CEO of Haas F1 Team, and President of Stewart-Haas Racing.

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                  • brsteg
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1590

                    #24
                    Originally posted by riddle28 View Post
                    also, larson got to cup with help from the drive for diversity program. not saying that alone did it but it got his foot in the door early
                    From my understanding, the D4D program is acts like a sponsor and gets you a free ride or discounted ride with a program team in K&N. Again, my understanding was Chip Ganassi signed Kyle before or as he entered the program. Chip was willing to take a chance on him, but it's partially because Chip knew he didn't have bank roll him that year in K&N cars.
                    "The Wise One"

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                    • TS FAN
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 4236

                      #25
                      Originally posted by JCSullivan00 View Post
                      Cole Custer didn't "Get Noticed" lol.

                      His dad is the CEO of Haas F1 Team, and President of Stewart-Haas Racing.
                      Ok, I didn't realize that. I said I was not sure about some of the situations.

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                      • TS FAN
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4236

                        #26
                        If a door to Nascar comes open, most any driver will be excited to go through that door. Don't kid yourselves. However, many times drivers do not see that door opening and opt for other achievements
                        That is also a smart thing to do. I really think many posters are ready to bury Nascar and that could not be further from reality IMO. Just so i am clear, I grew up loving Sprints and LM'S on dirt and still do. I also like Nascar, and while it has taken its lumps, it is far from dead. Indy car has suffered more than Nascar. I am sad about that too.

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                        • thexfactor0210
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1561

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                          Ok, I didn't realize that. I said I was not sure about some of the situations.
                          That is one of the major problems with Nascar, when a guy like Custer can have dad buy a ride. I would say some of the few who have actually made it on talent are Larson, Chris Bell, Erik Jones. Red(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) had his ride paid for and there are fifty late model drivers I can think of who are better than him. Ty Majeski and Bubba Pollard are some asphalt guys who deserve a shot. The rest of them I would say not so much.

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                          • CIRF
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8122

                            #28
                            Originally posted by champion24 View Post
                            Brad K was probably the last driver to get a solid ride without $$!! Larson, Bell, others at least have/had OEM $$ behind them to get in!
                            I'd be curious to know what exactly OEM money is. Larson had much of his dirt success driving midgets that were powered by Toyota engines. Do ya' suppose Toyota paid for him to get a ride for a Chevrolet team? That's richly ironic, wouldn't ya' say.

                            Larson got noticed because he's the best all around dirt driver since the days of Hewitt and Stewart. The first time he ever raced a full bodied stock car he won, on asphalt, no less. As a rookie he won the K&N All Pro Championship.

                            Originally posted by riddle28 View Post
                            also, larson got to cup with help from the drive for diversity program. not saying that alone did it but it got his foot in the door early
                            Like I said, it's documented Ganassi approached the Larson family before Larson had even a whiff of a NASCAR. Lets just say it was the diversity deal that got Larson all that money to go drive for Ganassi and not his talent and guts. How is it that CBell and Chase Briscoe got where they are? Neither of their family's have "buy a ride" money and neither have a smidgen of minority lineage. Briscoe won the ARCA championship with authority in 2016 winning 6 races, 4 in a row. It's safe to say that is what got Briscoe noticed because even though his background is dirt open wheel racing he wasn't nearly as impressive as Larson & Bell in dirt open wheel cars.


                            Hud has one impressive outing in a wingless 410 at Brownstown, but his midget efforts have been less than stellar. Bottom line is if Hud is good enough and puts up the gaudy win numbers in the big races he'll get noticed, money or no money.

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                            • TS FAN
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4236

                              #29
                              Originally posted by thexfactor0210 View Post
                              That is one of the major problems with Nascar, when a guy like Custer can have dad buy a ride. I would say some of the few who have actually made it on talent are Larson, Chris Bell, Erik Jones. Red(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) had his ride paid for and there are fifty late model drivers I can think of who are better than him. Ty Majeski and Bubba Pollard are some asphalt guys who deserve a shot. The rest of them I would say not so much.
                              I am surprised about how well Red(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) has done so far. Right now I am wondering what happens with Bell, who has got to get a top team ride or else he will not be able to show just how great his potential is. I am saying, looking around, I am not sure what happens. I would have to figure something is in the works. No way does this guy belong in the current series he is in for another year.

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                              • keith94elliott
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 230

                                #30
                                I asked hud a couple years ago what he liked better asphalt or dirt since he had ran both and he said definatly dirt

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