Fast 49 takes shot at passing points format on Twitter

[GEAR_HEAD]

I used to race mini sprints in a passing points format. I don't know a single person who actually likes it. There's too much unknown. That being said, if you show up knowing that is the format don't cry when thats what happens.

Maybe that's because the people you knew couldn't pass anybody. Lol That would be the only reason not to like it.

[ImCryn2]

Maybe that's because the people you knew couldn't pass anybody. Lol That would be the only reason not to like it.

The passing point formats that I have raced under were more so starting position to finishing position. A guy could technically not pass a car and advance 5 spots if the guys who started in front of him had a problem. I've not ever saw a point breakdown for such races that says you get this many points for passing a car, this many points for passing 3 cars, etc. I've only ever saw a chart that shows how many points you get if you start here and finish there. Also, It's top heavy for the top finishing guys as you get more points for starting 5th and winning than it is to start 8th and finish 4th although the same number of positions were advanced. I'm not going to bash the system as long as the drivers know beforehand that it is being used. I believe both sides have stated good arguments both for and against. The only part that bothers me about it at all is that the fans do not know who made it in and who didn't until the race is long over, but if they are good with it because they feel it added excitement, then so be it.

[MEE]

[QUOTE=chupp n bloomer fan

Bobby or Scott this would get 10 pages, precious JD, 1-2. Most probably cupping his nuts.[/QUOTE]

I think you missed the calculation !!!!
LOL

[MEE]

Racing is supposed to be a hobby, not a business. They turned it into a business, not the fans, so don't punish us. If they get to make their hobby their business then they are very fortunate but they still need to understand that from a fan perspective it's still all about the entertainment value. If they don't keep fans entertained then the fans stop coming and the racers no longer have their hobby or their business. The fans have less to lose, they only lose a hobby that can be easily replaced with something else.

JUST CURIOUS
Do you even go to any dirt race's ???

Sounds like you are talking about that fake-a$$ wrestling.

[victorylane]

Just ask the USMTS modified racers how passing points works. They've been using it for years I believe. JD being the professional racer that he is should make it his business to know exactly how the points system works. But the format still had nothing to do with his flat tire or hitting the wall. His 18 hour long road trip to fix his car is on him.

Car count is down pretty much everywhere in all classes. It has nothing to do with passing points just good ol $$$$. There are probably only a few race teams actually making a profit from racing and that's because T-shirt sales is their biggest income.

[james777777]

What if you draw the pole for a heat race and win it? How are you able to get any passing points?

[huskerdirt]

What if you draw the pole for a heat race and win it? How are you able to get any passing points?

You get finishing points. 59 Points.

2nd gets 55, 3rd 51, and so on. Then you get 1.76 per car passed.

[dirty-white-boy]

So the fans spending their hard earned money shouldn't get a say? Davenport is now in the same category as Clanton and Moyer. They're all whiners that hate the fans. Every time time they thank the fans it's laughable.

4m post of the month!!!!

[GEAR_HEAD]

JUST CURIOUS
Do you even go to any dirt race's ???

Sounds like you are talking about that fake-a$$ wrestling.

No, never.

[JMDraceHD98]

Davenport lost a fan here after his little melt down. And Boom...well you gotta be capable of passing cars so i can see why you don't like them.

[CIRF]

In general I have nothing against passing points. My only complaint is the arithmetic is more complicated and convoluted than the average fan can do in their heads. I'm not a math major and I fall into that category. It makes for some confusion among fans in regards to how passing points are applied to the A-main line-up. I would prefer a simpler system like the old World Hundred system. Easy to figure at a glance.

Our most preferred system is the one that USAC uses for their national midget and sprint car series'. 6 car invert according to qualifying time's in all heat races with the top 4 finishers transferring into the A-main. The transfer's from the heats get their time back and start the A-main according to their qualifying times with a 6 car invert (I think???). The B-main transfers start behind the guys that transferred from the heat races in the order that they finished the B-main. Best system I know of.

[TerryM]

With all due respect to Jonathan Davenport and the other fine racers who don't like passing points, I offer my opinion. I believe most fans do NOT like qualifying and watching the fastest cars start up front. Sure, one might tear up a car in a heat race trying to make the show, but the same thing can happen in qualifying. Also, if you mess up in qualifying, you can dig yourself into a hole similar to what might happen in multiple passing point heat races. Racing should be about who accomplished the most RACING with other cars on the track. Not who can qualify well out there by themselves and then run off ahead of the pack and hide.

Amen, brother. My thoughts exactly.

[ZERO25]

What if you draw the pole for a heat race and win it? How are you able to get any passing points?

That's the problem I have with the system. Some systems you get maximum points for winning your heat race, no matter where you start, which I believe is the right way. Others, you get more points than the winner, if you pass more cars, which I believe is moronic!

I always assumed a racer was there to win every race he entered, qualifying, heats and the feature, and get maximum value for it and not get penalized!

[MEE]

You get finishing points. 59 Points.

2nd gets 55, 3rd 51, and so on. Then you get 1.76 per car passed.

YEA and if you start 1 and finish 4 you get 47 points

if you start 4 finish 4 you get 47 points
now the guy that lost 3 spots gets the same points as the
one that did not lose or gain a spot.

Really FAIR.

[GEAR_HEAD]

YEA and if you start 1 and finish 4 you get 47 points

if you start 4 finish 4 you get 47 points
now the guy that lost 3 spots gets the same points as the
one that did not lose or gain a spot.

Really FAIR.

It's still pretty simple. Don't suck and and you'll make the feature.