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  • Jackdawg
    Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 31

    #1

    Watering tracks

    Would it be possible to install an irrigation system on some of these tracks maybe on the outside wall out of danger and maybe on the inside wall somehow. The track could water the racetracks more effectively and efficient. Just an idea. What do you guys think?
  • lazyifoto
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1587

    #2
    Portsmouth has one....the track floods annually to the top of the catch fence and it still looks like the great dust bowl.
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    • Josh Bayko
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 8734

      #3
      Originally posted by lazyifoto View Post
      Portsmouth has one....the track floods annually to the top of the catch fence and it still looks like the great dust bowl.
      It gets dusty because it sits flooded out for months at a time. All that dust is river silt.
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      • lazyifoto
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1587

        #4
        I know i am local
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        • Rocky
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 3218

          #5
          One of my favorite tracks no matter how much water they put on it is always a dust bowl. Even with new clay. I don’t really understand why. I mean you get a coating of fine red dust and the sky kinda looks like, I don’t know if any of y’all have been to Iraq, but like one of them orange crush sand storms over there. No idea why.
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          • Krooser
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 3117

            #6
            Every surface is different but the secret to a tacky surface is to water it for two nights before race day and again in the AM...ymmv.

            Gotta soak it...then the moisture will come up as the cars drive on it.

            And most tracks don't need to be heavily farmed every week...just grade it and condition the top three inches or so on race day.

            Look at the you tube videos that show how they prep the track for the IMCA SuperNationals at Boone, IA. Those boys have their act.together.
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            • chupp n bloomer fan
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 11526

              #7
              WVMS had a legitimate irrigation system a long time ago. They didn’t maintain it, and quit using it.

              With the technology now in irrigation, it would definitely work and be doable.

              Bury your main below frost line, have all the heads protected, drain it when it’s cold. Every year you’ll have maintenance, but it’s definitely doable if you have it installed correctly.
              Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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              • Madcat
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 523

                #8
                CnB nailed it. WVMS had one, but guessing it was never correctly winterized, being that the heads were above normal ground, and guessing the main feed line was too, very little natural insulation.

                I couldn't believe it when Dad told me that was a thing, but truly state of the art back then.

                Still all just sad about that place. Glad I got to see one of the last races on the big track, even if it was a CHoo Choo.

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                • MotoMatt
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 314

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Krooser View Post
                  Every surface is different but the secret to a tacky surface is to water it for two nights before race day and again in the AM...ymmv.

                  Gotta soak it...then the moisture will come up as the cars drive on it.

                  And most tracks don't need to be heavily farmed every week...just grade it and condition the top three inches or so on race day.

                  Look at the you tube videos that show how they prep the track for the IMCA SuperNationals at Boone, IA. Those boys have their act.together.
                  I don't think most tracks are going to do what Boone does, nor do I think what they do is the be all, end all of track prep. Just ask the guys out for the first heats after a farming session, its a slimy slick mess for at least 2 races. Not only that, but that track is at least 20% wood chips and the rest Iowa Black Dirt, not clay. They do a good job with that track the way it is, I'm personally not a fan of the wood chips but with the number of cars and races on it during the week of nationals it holds up and if you aren't watching right after they farm it there is good racing.

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                  • President Clinton
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 490

                    #10
                    Take a look at what the military does to roads or helicopters landing pads. There is a way to stop dust

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                    • TerryM
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 3902

                      #11
                      You can’t compare that black dirt in Iowa and Illinois to what most of the dirt racing world has. It’s like two different sports. And don’t get me started on red clay. I’m not sure it’s even possible to prep it perfectly for a big late model show.

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                      • mcarter815
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 1690

                        #12
                        Unfortunately, not every track in Iowa takes advantage of the black clay. Independence, for example, has incredibly sandy river clay. It's like racing in a sand box. Vinton has black dirt, but it's mostly topsoil. The track will start out a muddy mess and quickly dries out before the night's over because there isn't enough clay in it to hold the moisture.

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                        • 03fan
                          Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 59

                          #13
                          I think Superior in Wisconsin had an irrigation system a long time ago.

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                          • brsteg
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1590

                            #14
                            The real money will be to who can figure out how to make an affordable jet dryer type device so you can dry the track and work it after rainfall.
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                            • mcarter815
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 1690

                              #15
                              Originally posted by brsteg View Post
                              The real money will be to who can figure out how to make an affordable jet dryer type device so you can dry the track and work it after rainfall.
                              Depends on what you find affordable. Boone has used jet dryers for Supernationals.

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