We have reached the point!

[TerryM]

I’m curious as to which regional series are y’all referring to? Which states? Which ones do you want gone? Let’s see some specifics instead of generalizations.

[Josh Bayko]

I watched the replays of Saturday night races on DOD this morning. The races at Red Cedar, Beckley, and Eriez were much better races than the WOO and Lucas races. Anyone who thinks that you need a major sanctioning body to have a great race, is really missing alot of good racing going on across the country. Support your local tracks.

Of course you don’t need a sanction to have a great race, but they certainly bring a better crowd than an unsanctionedp show.

[Rocky]

Maybe they want Ultimate shuttered, because the heck with us where as that’s the only Supers we get. Lucas and WoO can take a flying leap for all I care. I understand that some of y’all want ALL the cars, too bad. You got to share. Lol 😆

[GrocMax]

The happy fans went to Deer Creek this last weekend and got to see all the things they like- Great facility, excellent track and prep, lots of cars, and lots of racing. The cars just didn't have fenders in the front.

[3 wide]

We're I live the only way I see supers is if it is a special race all the weekly racing is crates an they run anywhere between 8 an 10 classes a friend of mine went to a local track they had 8 classes on the schedule at midnight they had run one feature.

[Rocky]

8 classes of cars that are all mostly the same is a product of everybody wanting a chance to win without working hard to do it. In the 80s there would be 80 factory stocks at our local track. Winning a consi was better than a lot of stuff that passes as a feature today. Then you get to move on to the semi, and if you make it to the feature congrats, now you really better do your homework. I mean we have 3 or 4 divisions of late models, 5 divisions of bombers and of course the hornets. But that's a societal problem boys. Sure, you win a 7 car feature..... Congrats.

[dirt crow]

Terry - State series, (MSCC, LA, TX, Carolina Clash, etc) fine with me. But I believe they should only run at that states tracks. CC would obviously be two states. No venturing out. For as regional in the southeast, comp cams, southern all stars, Ultimate. That’s plenty. Cook’s spring and summer deals are a good thing too. That’s enough in my book.

[dirt crow]

8 classes of cars that are all mostly the same is a product of everybody wanting a chance to win without working hard to do it. In the 80s there would be 80 factory stocks at our local track. Winning a consi was better than a lot of stuff that passes as a feature today. Then you get to move on to the semi, and if you make it to the feature congrats, now you really better do your homework. I mean we have 3 or 4 divisions of late models, 5 divisions of bombers and of course the hornets. But that's a societal problem boys. Sure, you win a 7 car feature..... Congrats.

I agree. Supers and crates only. I hate seeing 4-5 classes that look the same.

[Rocky]

Crates run with limiteds around here. The division is just called Late Model. With FUEL series rules.

The other classes, that’s a whole different ball of wax. There’s a need for a pro stock class, and a Hornet class but the amount of real steel cars to make stock cars out of is pretty dry. Our Super Streets have turned into B-Sportsman mostly. I don’t know if that’s good or not.

[Rocky]

Except when you figure that you can get a Black front end Rocket for practically free, why chop up a classic Camaro to make a street stock? However a Street Stock really should look like an actual car. At least a passing resemblance.

[TS FAN]

Local shows are of concern. Added purse shows and Lucas, WOO etc. do not concern me. When people quit coming, to added purse shows and series shows, then it is time to worry IMO. Huge car counts are going to be hard to come by because of so many options for the drivers. That is fine. Brownstown had 34, not bad. The night before Lucas ran at a track with no locals. About what you would expect. I remember years ago when Lawrenceburg had Lucas Oil and they had no weekly LM series, they were getting about 25-30 cars too. Bottom line is this. How good is the racing itself? For the most part, the feature is what matters. To have competitive heats adds to it. But rules for the cars themselves has something to do with car counts, Right? Can always make it easier for drivers to race.

[Dlmfan123]

@josh bayko, what is a sanction feee for Lucas/WoO currently??

[Josh Bayko]

@josh bayko, what is a sanction feee for Lucas/WoO currently??

I believe Lucas is 7500 and the WoO is 10k. The tracks also have to come up with the entire purse.

[PH88N92]

Y'all are lucky to live in an area that runs Late models. In south Texas it's rare to see late models... When UDS said they were getting with tracks in south Texas to put on some show's, and paying good purses but then to find out it was all BS really pissed off a bunch of people in south Texas... It would be nice to get some good late model racing like they had a few weeks ago at TMS... racing for $ 1000.00 to $ 1500.00 just not worth it.