low car and fan counts,,why?

[mcarter815]

Some tracks are updated and put on a good show with decent food, fan admission, drivers pay, and GOOD TRACK PREP. (FALS).This kind of tracks will survive and prosper, the others will stay open but struggle and eventually close. A lot of local LM drivers can't afford the cost of racing against top finance drivers for the same purse money 15 yrs. ago. Tracks have to make money to survive but to many prompters are greedy and don't care about putting on a good show for the fans. Look at Nascar its going down big time, and its all about the money. Dirt track racing is still an exciting sport, its losing its fan base because it was suppose to be down home racing. Down home boys can't afford it anymore.

If promoters were truly greedy they wouldn't be running a race track.

[Snowmanracr21]

Cost is the number one issue. Everything from admission to pay out to race car costs. There's cheap at home things to do now like Netflix. Number 2 reason is people live busy lives and work way to much to survive and simply don't go out to do things like the races anymore. Its easier to stay home and watch tv or play video games. Number 3 reason is people just aren't car enthusiasts anymore, especially young people. 85% of your regular Saturday night short tracks are hurting these days because of these reasons I think.

[RW57]

At my local track what is called econo bomber has Rockets and other big chassis with 602s. We are talking 30 grand cars racing for 350 to win . Here I am with a home made 3 link clip racing against them. Kinda like taking a knife to a gun fight. The 602 class which was supposed to be the savior for little guys has a Rocket xr1 a Longhorn and a Krptoyinte winning most of the time sometimes a little guy sneaks in a win . I thought the 602 class was gonna use up old late model chassis yeah right. We Racers as a lot are stupid we spend more than we got but theirs always somebody with more money to outrun you then we complain knowing full well if we had it we would spend it to. Bottom line its about money.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

At my local track what is called econo bomber has Rockets and other big chassis with 602s. We are talking 30 grand cars racing for 350 to win . Here I am with a home made 3 link clip racing against them. Kinda like taking a knife to a gun fight. The 602 class which was supposed to be the savior for little guys has a Rocket xr1 a Longhorn and a Krptoyinte winning most of the time sometimes a little guy sneaks in a win . I thought the 602 class was gonna use up old late model chassis yeah right. We Racers as a lot are stupid we spend more than we got but theirs always somebody with more money to outrun you then we complain knowing full well if we had it we would spend it to. Bottom line its about money.

You are 100% correct. Few people can stick to a reasonable budget if they are not winning. Few can work harder or smarter when they think handing over the credit card will produce instant results.

[mcarter815]

Handing over the credit card takes a lot less time than trying to make it yourself, and as has been mentioned earlier in this thread, some racers barely have enough free time to do weekly maintenance let alone fabricate stuff.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Handing over the credit card takes a lot less time than trying to make it yourself, and as has been mentioned earlier in this thread, some racers barely have enough free time to do weekly maintenance let alone fabricate stuff.

Winter leaves a racer with a lot of time to make his car faster. Instead, he just calls Shinston.

[mcarter815]

More likely he sells the car and go does a less stressful hobby.

[Late_Model_Mark]

Lazy promoters who only use Facebook as their way of getting the word out is no help. Tracks who post results solely on Facebook is not helping either.



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[RW57]

I asked about building a clone 602 first tear down on me any time anywhere it's right they reseal other head timing cover oil pan i reassemble without paying some body 5 or 6 hundred plus to put on a dam head gasket.I was told by the former Nesmith owner who I have known for years that I was probably one of the 3 or 4 people in my area that was capable of doing my own engines. My point is I've got a clone hanging on my engine stand that I have less than 1500$ in I want to race but I don't have close to 4 grand for a new 602.The hard working diy racer can not compete anymore against cubic dollars. We are out here we just need some help. Problem is nobody gives a dam about us so we just walk away that's where your cars are that's where your people are that came when they raced.Can it be saved I really don't know.

[3 wide]

Reasons for smaller crowds. 1try to see how many classes they can run like 8.10. 2 under worked an one lane race tracks. 3 lets race all night 2 or 3 am 4 why do promoters this day an time when they run a big super race feel like they have to pay more money in ever class 5 why don't they run super big race one week crates the next week an so on that way you don't wear your race track out an you got something different ever week.

[hillracermanb2j7]

Ok. So let me get this straight half of you on here think you have better things to do than go to the race that's fine I'm sure you do. But dont bitch about car counts and fan counts when you dont go. Then a select few of you want to complain about cost and blame woo/lucas. Ok. I'm to young to remember but I have seen a lot of videos of the wedge cars and I'm pretty sure all that extra stuff was expensive back in the day. The only reason it is more expensive for bodies is because they charge more for the metal they use the same amount today as they did 20 years ago. The only reason it cost more is because they charge more. And one more thing how many of you wanted that special device removed from the 49 car a couple of years ago? Well guess what what it cost him 300$ to do then now cost 3000$. So in short let's complain and blame everyone except our selves. Have a nice day

[Mason87]

I'll bitch as I please and I would love to support my local track and would if they could put on a well managed show. So yes I have better things to do rather than sit at a race track all day long.

[RW57]

I asked about building a clone 602 first tear down on me any time anywhere it's right they reseal other head timing cover oil pan i reassemble without paying some body 5 or 6 hundred plus to put on a dam head gasket.I was told by the former Nesmith owner who I have known for years that I was probably one of the 3 or 4 people in my area that was capable of doing my own engines. My point is I've got a clone hanging on my engine stand that I have less than 1500$ in I want to race but I don't have close to 4 grand for a new 602.The hard working diy racer can not compete anymore against cubic dollars. We are out here we just need some help. Problem is nobody gives a dam about us so we just walk away that's where your cars are that's where your people are that came when they raced.Can it be saved I really don't know.

[3 wide]

Last year I went woo sprint car race at the fairgrounds in Nashville that was the most enjoyable time I had at the race track in a long time they ran 2 classes sprints an open wheels got there about 6 left at 10 it was sold out Saturday night that's 20 thousand you don't have to run everything you can drag in the pits to draw a crowd.

[Jking24]

Ok. So let me get this straight half of you on here think you have better things to do than go to the race that's fine I'm sure you do. But dont bitch about car counts and fan counts when you dont go. Then a select few of you want to complain about cost and blame woo/lucas. Ok. I'm to young to remember but I have seen a lot of videos of the wedge cars and I'm pretty sure all that extra stuff was expensive back in the day. The only reason it is more expensive for bodies is because they charge more for the metal they use the same amount today as they did 20 years ago. The only reason it cost more is because they charge more. And one more thing how many of you wanted that special device removed from the 49 car a couple of years ago? Well guess what what it cost him 300$ to do then now cost 3000$. So in short let's complain and blame everyone except our selves. Have a nice day

The 300$ part you speak of was on the 6 car not the 49 but that doesn't change the point you make