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  • WisWildManFan
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 3217

    #16
    it has to be something big if slack has been thinking about it for a couple years... that being said i'm not sure what can make the event much better for me.
    Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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    • Tireguy17
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 1156

      #17
      Take your Fan Hat off and put the Promoter Hat on for a second. $10k to start? $10K non-qualified race? As long as the campground and stands are full they don't need to do anything to be perfectly honest. For every $1,000 you add to the purse, you need to add 2-3 cars to pay for it if the stands and campground is solid.

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      • brsteg
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 1590

        #18
        Originally posted by Tireguy17 View Post
        Take your Fan Hat off and put the Promoter Hat on for a second. $10k to start? $10K non-qualified race? As long as the campground and stands are full they don't need to do anything to be perfectly honest. For every $1,000 you add to the purse, you need to add 2-3 cars to pay for it if the stands and campground is solid.
        Flip your promoter hat around the other direction and think about this.

        You have an event that has had decreasing car count every year, and for only the 3rd time the past season they had less than 100 cars. While fan support is as good as it has ever been.

        Since you have a big anniversary coming up, and an event that has had an incredibly healthy bottom line for years, and not having to prop up a weekly program; while would you not use this opportunity to throw some money at the race to try to build good will among the competitors; while holding ticket prices to keep your grandstand side satisfied.

        You try to draw in guys that haven't been in while, or ever, with the ability to make some money this trip or at least break even then treat them so well that maybe a good number come back for next few years to come after the celebration and purses return to more or less normal.

        Now you can't just throw endless money at it; but there is very good reasons as a promoter to take a one year hit to try to build relationships with one side of the fence and strengthen the event overall long term.

        Do they rest on there merits of a successful event and keep getting 80-90 cars for next few years to come; or do they invest and try to get more folks coming and have 100-120 cars for those coming years.
        "The Wise One"

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        • Tireguy17
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 1156

          #19
          Originally posted by brsteg View Post
          Flip your promoter hat around the other direction and think about this.

          You have an event that has had decreasing car count every year, and for only the 3rd time the past season they had less than 100 cars. While fan support is as good as it has ever been.

          Since you have a big anniversary coming up, and an event that has had an incredibly healthy bottom line for years, and not having to prop up a weekly program; while would you not use this opportunity to throw some money at the race to try to build good will among the competitors; while holding ticket prices to keep your grandstand side satisfied.

          You try to draw in guys that haven't been in while, or ever, with the ability to make some money this trip or at least break even then treat them so well that maybe a good number come back for next few years to come after the celebration and purses return to more or less normal.

          Now you can't just throw endless money at it; but there is very good reasons as a promoter to take a one year hit to try to build relationships with one side of the fence and strengthen the event overall long term.

          Do they rest on there merits of a successful event and keep getting 80-90 cars for next few years to come; or do they invest and try to get more folks coming and have 100-120 cars for those coming years.
          We will have to agree to disagree. The Eldora shows already get the majority of the National talent and regional talent. Those 20-30 cars that you are looking to add to the event are not going to add to the event other than boasting the car count to be honest. The cream always rises to the top at Eldora. Be happy with the 80-90 cars Eldora gets, the rest of us have to be content with 40-50 for our crown jewels.

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          • brsteg
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 1590

            #20
            Originally posted by Tireguy17 View Post
            We will have to agree to disagree. The Eldora shows already get the majority of the National talent and regional talent. Those 20-30 cars that you are looking to add to the event are not going to add to the event other than boasting the car count to be honest. The cream always rises to the top at Eldora. Be happy with the 80-90 cars Eldora gets, the rest of us have to be content with 40-50 for our crown jewels.
            Lots of fans like car counts; selling point.

            Also if you start getting into car counts of 60-70 you do hurt the event because the nature of the heat races change. 10-12 cars in the heats is a lot less aggression and chance of yellows to stir up the races up compared 15+.

            If you can pad the car count, that you need to keep up quality of the heat races, now when there is no end in site of declines due to cost you've possibly bought a few more years of prosperity.

            There are plenty of regional guys that come in to Eldora today and knock big national guys out of the A Main. That is part of the draw of Eldora that you lose at many events today, with having provisionals and lower car counts and less guys there that are capable of knocking out a big name.

            Is it a gamble to think you can keep more guys coming back for years with one year of inflated purse. Yes. There's also reward out there to be gained.

            I do think we need all the racers, not just the elites of the sport to be successful as segment of a motorsport.
            "The Wise One"

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            • Rocky
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 3218

              #21
              Hopefully they get somebody to try to break the world record school bus jump.
              Guerilla Racing Junkies.

              Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

              The problem is the gall dang motors.

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              • TerryM
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 3902

                #22
                Originally posted by WisWildManFan View Post
                it has to be something big if slack has been thinking about it for a couple years... that being said i'm not sure what can make the event much better for me.
                That’s my thought as well. I’m not seeing any ideas yet that could make it much more enjoyable from a fan’s perspective. It can’t get much better than the 2019 edition.

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                • Rocky
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 3218

                  #23
                  How many cars are there in the whole country capable of actually winning that race? Maybe 15? Why does anybody want 120 cars to show up at all? Everybody complains about too much racing most of the time. I suppose I don’t get it.
                  Guerilla Racing Junkies.

                  Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

                  The problem is the gall dang motors.

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                  • ZERO25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 5240

                    #24
                    Go Bloomers!

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                    • WisWildManFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 3217

                      #25
                      50 cars in the feature starting them 3 to a row... now that would be f*cking nuts lol
                      Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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                      • TackyTracker
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 5316

                        #26
                        pay the driver's for sure every 10 cars past 100 gets an extra 10k added to the purse. Anything up to 100 cars keep the same.. For some crazy reason they drew 160 cars that would add extra 60k to the purse..

                        Something else with those B scrambles they do for like 5 laps paying a grand.. Why not take that up to 3k and make it 10-15 laps??

                        Either way I'll be there like some have said fan support is there now let's get the driver's there

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                        • NormP
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2262

                          #27
                          I say they should make it a figure 8 race.

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                          • hucktyson
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 1903

                            #28
                            Who doesn’t show up at the world that you a frothing at the tip to see there ??? Every car in the country capable of running top 10 is there every year. Yes there’s a handful of guys who could maybe make the show who don’t come , but the field is absurdly stacked. The first world I went to has 123 cars and 80 of them were fast , now they get 100 but almost all of them are fast. They guys who don’t have the equipment to be running at eldora quit coming , not the fast guys.

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                            • Mams
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 885

                              #29
                              Start them 4-wide right after the world famous 4-wide salute!
                              Will Rogers never met Donald Trump!

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                              • Krooser
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 3117

                                #30
                                Past winners race...15 laps...$1000 to each car owner who supply's a car...
                                Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
                                Class of 2019

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