Hudson Oneal

[kidrock]

He will find a ride IMO

He's to talented not to

[Kromulous]

Your seeing the micro economics of SLM racing now, smaller teams folding up, and deciding to run Regional, and dropping off the "Tours". In the not to distant future you will see the concentration of "Big" teams and various House cars on the Tours, and you will see on of the Tours fold all together, i would say WoO, but that's my opinion.

I think in 2018 was the peak of SLM racing, now you will see the Economics kick in, and people will be priced out in rapid fashion. Mike Marler was the big one in 2018, won the WoO Title and was out, continued racing but not on a Tour. Now Hudson, my question who is next? I bet before the season starts next year you will see at least 3 more Teams dropping out.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Your seeing the micro economics of SLM racing now, smaller teams folding up, and deciding to run Regional, and dropping off the "Tours". In the not to distant future you will see the concentration of "Big" teams and various House cars on the Tours, and you will see on of the Tours fold all together, i would say WoO, but that's my opinion.

I think in 2018 was the peak of SLM racing, now you will see the Economics kick in, and people will be priced out in rapid fashion. Mike Marler was the big one in 2018, won the WoO Title and was out, continued racing but not on a Tour. Now Hudson, my question who is next? I bet before the season starts next year you will see at least 3 more Teams dropping out.

I thought it peaked 15 years ago, Krom?

[lazermod3]

Your seeing the micro economics of SLM racing now, smaller teams folding up, and deciding to run Regional, and dropping off the "Tours". In the not to distant future you will see the concentration of "Big" teams and various House cars on the Tours, and you will see on of the Tours fold all together, i would say WoO, but that's my opinion.

I think in 2018 was the peak of SLM racing, now you will see the Economics kick in, and people will be priced out in rapid fashion. Mike Marler was the big one in 2018, won the WoO Title and was out, continued racing but not on a Tour. Now Hudson, my question who is next? I bet before the season starts next year you will see at least 3 more Teams dropping out.

Trump,doesn't see it this way!

[hucktyson]

It doesn’t pay to run a tour. I don’t know how they get soo many guys to do it in the first place. The lucas title pays 70k ..... think about what a joke that is. Think about the time , effort , luck and MONEY that all have to come together to make a lucas title happen. And it’s not like if you win the title Microsoft or apple has a 7 figure annual sponsorship waiting for you. Running these tours requires the team owner to sustain losses of 2-400k a year. People will eventually get tired of spending that kind of time , effort and money with zero chance of making a profit. The lucas tour would have to pay 700k to the champion for it to be remotely worth it , but with how racers are they would spend double what they do now to try winning that lol

[Mantis]

And is it just the Lucas team? He also owns some crate stuff and Chad Stapletons car too, or Stapleton is associated with the team.

Yep....there is more to SSI than just Huddy.

Maybe this has something to do with the odd "raffle" Stapleton posted the other day......

https://www.facebook.com/chad.stapleton.54/posts/10157546746070429?__xts__

[Kromulous]

Peak as in total Teams on the Tours, 15 years ago was the peak for working guys running SLMs.

Trump, well good luck to him. We will need it. If you look at the pricing of various things, you can see the Economics are not good, median Housing costs, median vehicle costs. Incomes are stagnant with 50% of Country making 33k or less, its not going to be fun. Once various Banks start collapsing, look into the REPO markets, and quantitative easing /tightening, scary stuff, 80 Billion bail outs daily.

Anyway 2020, 2021 i say brace yourself.

Just my opinions, and according to my wife i am wrong 100% of the time, so there ya go.

[play4kps]

Trump has nothing to do with it. There is a group of race teams that will spend whatever it takes to win and the power that be are doing nothing to curb it and will do nothing to curb it. These parts that are making racing so expensive that teams are folding are the primary sponsors of both major touring series and Dirt on dirt. As long as these groups are making money nothing will change. Not trying to be negative, these are facts. If the fans would look past the Bloomquist, Davenport, Shephard, Owens and a few other teams have unlimited budgets and getting comped expensive parts to promote their products, its a no brainer. Lets be honest their may have been almost a 100 teams at the world ,but realistically there was 5 or 6 teams that realistically had a chance and anyone outside of that select few would have been an upset.

[dirty-white-boy]

Huck are you running for President next year by chance? You make more sense than the clown we currently have in office and way more sense than the 30 plus on the other side competing for the other spot.

[Crossbones]

What do you people think should be done? Turn them into a limited late model?

[Crossbones]

People will still think they need a $40,000 engine to compete.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

People will still think they need a $40,000 engine to compete.

Let them. They thought they needed too much 20 years ago.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

What do you people think should be done? Turn them into a limited late model?

Huck and I agree there is an issue. I disagree somewhat on what should be done. I would go back to enforced 2000 body dimensions. I would reduce the spoiler to 3" to 0". Then I would let them race.

I don't believe in technical rules that limit shock length and other things like that. There are always ways to work around them. It just leads to more pointless rules. Plus the appeal of dirt late models was always that it left room for imagination. It wasn't a spec car.

The loss of the arched roof, the nose splitter, the interior turned into a sideboard, the decking not being flat, have all got the cars to where we are. The downforce is insane compared to 20 years ago.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm ok with any dynamic suspension attitude they want to take with the body reigned in.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You would still have the same attitude just slightly less exaggerated and you would be relying on set up and driving more than aero...

Your last sentence is what I want to achieve. But, I don't wanna pull off shocks in tech and tell people how to setup their car. Or tech to make sure the LR shock rotates with the cage.