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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14309

    #31
    Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
    My understanding on the early Longhorns is that they were too adjustable, and Kevin got rid of a lot of that and loosened and stiffened the cars in other places.
    When Kevin changed them into modular construction, I thought he pretty much changed everything? The original cars shared geometry with a Mastersbilt, iirc. The current car is a different animal entirely.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • hardracer32
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 450

      #32
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      When Kevin changed them into modular construction, I thought he pretty much changed everything? The original cars shared geometry with a Mastersbilt, iirc. The current car is a different animal entirely.
      Agree with you on Kevin's innovation. Once he made it so that you could bolt on updates, it was like everybody had this "aha" moment. Now they all do it. I think his involvement with Longhorn and designing that car was a pivotal moment in the way people think about building, and setting up Late Models.

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      • Jking24
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 1512

        #33
        They may have some things carried over from the old to the new but i have seen a pre rumley and a post rumley longhorn parked side by side and they are two very different animals not just a tweak here and a tweak their

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        • fastford
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4059

          #34
          this is the norm among chassis builders today , you take your chassis off the jig and put a different one on , whether its out preforming yours or not , and study the differences , if you find something on theirs that appears to be better than yours , then you change yours ,but most builders do not copy some ones design exactly , just make theirs better by incorporating some things from the other guys , been going on from the beginning , i know of a small builder that has long horn geometry on the front and rocket xr1 on the back and they are winning races , reckon how he achieved this this ? exactly how i stated above , but he didn't completely copy either , he took his design and added what he thought was best from both and improved his product tremendously......

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          • chupp n bloomer fan
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 11526

            #35
            I like the posts guys. All pretty good. And also why I don’t get the hate for Rocket. Kevin Rumley is the one who sent us down this major engineering rabbit hole. Therefore making the costs climb on Longhorns and Rockets. Which I’m pretty sure he had a hand in. Because yes, he used to use Rockets before he went and redid Longhorns boat anchors.
            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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            • chupp n bloomer fan
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 11526

              #36
              And I’m totally not blaming Kevin, Rocket, whatever. Kevin has a job to do, and he’s freakin smart as can be, so here we are. And if he helped Rocket, Mark and him had a job to do. It’s the sanctioning bodies that are at fault for not getting these guys in check. And now, man I dunno. Does need reeled in.
              Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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              • Rocky
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 3218

                #37
                I don’t understand why it needs to be stopped. If you don’t like it, get out. Run limited or crate or street stock or something.
                Guerilla Racing Junkies.

                Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

                The problem is the gall dang motors.

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                • Highside Hustler25
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 12917

                  #38
                  I totally agree with Rocky.
                  8/13/16

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14309

                    #39
                    If you are ok with 20 cars left in the country, I guess it's ok Rocky.
                    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                    • jog49
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2551

                      #40
                      If the Rocket XR1 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, how in the world did the Lucas Oil champion accomplish his feat in an inferior chassis; not once but twice? Will miracles never cease?

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                      • Rocky
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3218

                        #41
                        20 cars left in the country? We’re kinda already there.
                        Guerilla Racing Junkies.

                        Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

                        The problem is the gall dang motors.

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                        • Rocky
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 3218

                          #42
                          Originally posted by hucktyson
                          Someone said every car built now is just as good so you may as well buy one of these instead of a rocket..... seems like a great deal .....
                          It is a great deal for some jabroni that’s out there in a 20 year old heap. Buy this, you’ll still be uncompetitive just not dangerously slow anymore.
                          Guerilla Racing Junkies.

                          Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

                          The problem is the gall dang motors.

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                          • Rocky
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3218

                            #43
                            He should not you should that should say.
                            Guerilla Racing Junkies.

                            Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

                            The problem is the gall dang motors.

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                            • fastford
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4059

                              #44
                              Originally posted by hucktyson
                              Someone said every car built now is just as good so you may as well buy one of these instead of a rocket..... seems like a great deal .....
                              if you know what to do with it , it is , just like jogs example.....

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14309

                                #45
                                Most of the cars out there are built with adequate geometry to win big races. Some will require more know how on your part than others. Fact is, buying a new xr1 with an integra shock package and that somewhat vanilla setup sheet isn't going to make a guy a touring winner unless he can wheel real good either.
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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