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  • NeedforLMspeed
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 1905

    #31
    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
    I don't post much here anymore due to rampant lack of facts and and objectivity by a significant number of posters and is often a gross waste of time and thought. However, on this subject, against my better judgement I will respond.

    #1. First and foremost if you've never attended The Chili Bowl it's nearly impossible to explain the attraction of race fans and race participants alike. Sometimes objectivity is a problem due to dirt late model tunnel vision of which I confess to have suffered in the distant past. The old saying "if I need to explain it to you, you'll never understand" applies here.

    #2. The Chili Bowl is one of the biggest and most prestigious events in the country. For example, Kyle Larson is on record saying that he'd be more proud to win The Chili Bowl Saturday night A-main than the Daytona 500. A couple of drivers who are regarded as the best dirt late models have ever had to offer have tried their hand at The Chili Bowl and found it to be quite tough going. The drivers and teams aren't particularly concerned with the purse, they want that Golden Driller and all that goes with it!!

    #3. The Chili Bowl is a career maker. Just ask Dave Blaney, Billy Boat, Tim McCreadie, Bryan Clauson, Rico Abreu or Christopher Bell. It catapulted all of those guys into NASCAR and/or Indy Car rides. Not all stuck but it got them noticed by the right people, something that winning the World Hundred and Dream does not have the clout and prestige to accomplish outside it's niche participant and fan base.

    #4. The Chili Bowl is such a huge event that anyone remotely connected to dirt racing, and especially those who are involved in midget racing, wants to be a part of it and fans are drawn to Tulsa in numbers that sell the place out 5 out of the 6 nights and the good tickets are handed down in families from one generation to another in spite of the fact that over 80% of all tickets sold are sold to fans outside of the State of Oklahoma. There are probably over 1000 people show up to the Saturday night finale' who don't have seats. They bring lawn chairs, buy pit passes, and watch the jumbo-tron's in the pit area. It's also MAVtv's #1 rated live broadcast of the whole year!

    Everything in this excessively long post is true and provable and I also know this probably doesn't clear anything up for those who don't understand and are too short sighted to even want to, but I tried. Race fans/open wheel fans aren't "different" at all, they merely recognize a high quality product and support it accordingly. I've attended well over 20 World Hundred's and several Dream's and I know of which I speak. They are GREAT party's! But, take away the party aspect and they don't compare favorably to the 6 nights of The Chili BowL.

    I can't wait for the flaming to begin! Too bad we won't be back to enjoy it. LOLOL!

    Lastly, shouldn't this be on the sprint car board? LOL!

    Everyone have a Wonderful Christmas and a Happy & Healthy New Year.
    That's because you try to talk open wheel midget and sprint car racing on a LM section of the forum.
    2020 race count:
    1/2 of an event

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    • Taboo62
      Member
      • Nov 2019
      • 42

      #32
      Originally posted by Rocky View Post
      The same guy has won 3 in a row. 20 cars that can win is being generous.
      Robert Bell, a farmer from Iowa, he won a chilli bowl heat in 2017, with a D2 midget engine and an old car. He's also a big guy, near 60 years of age and owns his own stuff and travels mostly by himself in a 1/2 ton pickup truck. Are the odds against him and those like him? Sure, but if odds keep you home maybe you need a new hobby. I think you know not of what you speak.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpZKlbauwI Interview
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s--U_6YkLgE Race
      Last edited by Taboo62; 12-24-2019, 07:04 AM.

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      • Stefan2k4
        Senior Member
        • May 2018
        • 266

        #33
        It's the World 100 for midgets. It's as simple as that.

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        • chopter
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 224

          #34
          they show up because they are racers. every single track and race in the country have guys show up every weekend that dont have much of a chance to win.

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          • Illtsate32
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 3079

            #35
            There's only two cars capable of winning as long as Larson and Bell keep showing up lol...

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            • Dlmfan123
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 4519

              #36
              Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
              There's only two cars capable of winning as long as Larson and Bell keep showing up lol...
              Pretty sure the only one to beat Larson in the last couple months is gio scelzi in his 2nd or 3rd midget race lol

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              • Illtsate32
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 3079

                #37
                Originally posted by Dlmfan123 View Post
                Pretty sure the only one to beat Larson in the last couple months is gio scelzi in his 2nd or 3rd midget race lol
                I like him hes a stud...

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                • chathamracefan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1032

                  #38
                  I'm a LM lover but also a fan of all forms of dirt. Have never been to Chili Bowl but watch it on the PPV that RacinBoys does as well as on Mav every year. The biggest part of the draw is the time of year. So many guys have nothing else going on & are just itching to race so they go even with no chance in hell of winning. Over the years, it has built into a mega event. Everyone is there. Also, the racing is dang good & there is a ton of it. On the final day, the last chance races start with like the letter N at 10 in the morning. They run double of each letter all the way up to the double B mains to set the final field. Just a blast to watch all day as it goes from the also rans up to the more accomplished teams.

                  I have been to the DuQuoin indoor event a few times & refer to it as a poor man's Chili Bowl. The racing at both of these indoor venues is outstanding.

                  I'd encourage late model fans to give the midgets a try sometime as the midgets put on outstanding racing at these indoor venues & outdoors especially on the bullrings like Jacksonville, Macon & Belle Clair.

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12920

                    #39
                    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                    I don't post much here anymore due to rampant lack of facts and and objectivity by a significant number of posters and is often a gross waste of time and thought. However, on this subject, against my better judgement I will respond.

                    #1. First and foremost if you've never attended The Chili Bowl it's nearly impossible to explain the attraction of race fans and race participants alike. Sometimes objectivity is a problem due to dirt late model tunnel vision of which I confess to have suffered in the distant past. The old saying "if I need to explain it to you, you'll never understand" applies here.

                    #2. The Chili Bowl is one of the biggest and most prestigious events in the country. For example, Kyle Larson is on record saying that he'd be more proud to win The Chili Bowl Saturday night A-main than the Daytona 500. A couple of drivers who are regarded as the best dirt late models have ever had to offer have tried their hand at The Chili Bowl and found it to be quite tough going. The drivers and teams aren't particularly concerned with the purse, they want that Golden Driller and all that goes with it!!

                    #3. The Chili Bowl is a career maker. Just ask Dave Blaney, Billy Boat, Tim McCreadie, Bryan Clauson, Rico Abreu or Christopher Bell. It catapulted all of those guys into NASCAR and/or Indy Car rides. Not all stuck but it got them noticed by the right people, something that winning the World Hundred and Dream does not have the clout and prestige to accomplish outside it's niche participant and fan base.

                    #4. The Chili Bowl is such a huge event that anyone remotely connected to dirt racing, and especially those who are involved in midget racing, wants to be a part of it and fans are drawn to Tulsa in numbers that sell the place out 5 out of the 6 nights and the good tickets are handed down in families from one generation to another in spite of the fact that over 80% of all tickets sold are sold to fans outside of the State of Oklahoma. There are probably over 1000 people show up to the Saturday night finale' who don't have seats. They bring lawn chairs, buy pit passes, and watch the jumbo-tron's in the pit area. It's also MAVtv's #1 rated live broadcast of the whole year!

                    Everything in this excessively long post is true and provable and I also know this probably doesn't clear anything up for those who don't understand and are too short sighted to even want to, but I tried. Race fans/open wheel fans aren't "different" at all, they merely recognize a high quality product and support it accordingly. I've attended well over 20 World Hundred's and several Dream's and I know of which I speak. They are GREAT party's! But, take away the party aspect and they don't compare favorably to the 6 nights of The Chili BowL.

                    I can't wait for the flaming to begin! Too bad we won't be back to enjoy it. LOLOL!

                    Lastly, shouldn't this be on the sprint car board? LOL!

                    Everyone have a Wonderful Christmas and a Happy & Healthy New Year.
                    We may butt heads on here a lot, but this guy does know open wheel and the Chilli Bowl. If you have a Chilli Bowl ?, he'll have the answer.
                    Good post CIRF. Merry XMas.
                    8/13/16

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                    • JimBo
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 809

                      #40
                      Late Model fan here but I have attended the Chili Bowl since 1990 and it is the best race of the year for me. The atmosphere is unlike any other. Midgets on this small of a track make for some exciting racing all week long. The alphabet double features leading up to the A feature on Saturday are a spectacle in itself.

                      Tickets are hard to get and mostly sold out from the previous year ticket holders renewals but if you can find a ticket do yourself a favor and attend this winter's event.

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                      • Krooser
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 3117

                        #41
                        Geez...it's about the desire to compete, the racing camaraderie, the prestige of the event...

                        Many of the same reasons thousands of guys race every week...to compete.

                        It's not about winning...it's about the competition of man and machine. And no participation trophies.
                        Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
                        Class of 2019

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                        • Raceready
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 4737

                          #42
                          I just got done watching it on tv. Everyone thought for sure Kyle Larson was going to win after leading 53 laps only to have Bell pass him on the last corner to win. A great race.

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                          • ZERO25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 5240

                            #43
                            Plain and simple...….its gotta be on your bucket list if you love dirt racing!

                            Im not an open wheel guy, but I plan on being there in the next couple of years!

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                            • Rocky
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 3218

                              #44
                              Their car count is going up. Ours is going down.
                              Guerilla Racing Junkies.

                              Shovel on a little more coal, then when we cross white oak mountain, watch 97 roll!

                              The problem is the gall dang motors.

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                              • lurker
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 3190

                                #45
                                Kyle Larson Massive Flip at Western Springs Speedway

                                From last night in Auckland, New Zealand.

                                Originally posted by Dlmfan123 View Post
                                Pretty sure the only one to beat Larson in the last couple months ---

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