WOO LMS / DIRTcar Technical Bulletin.. Effective Feb. 1, 2020. Droop Rule & penalties

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #31
    Originally posted by 50Dixon50 View Post
    Does anyone on here know if this new rule will apply to all of Dirtcar including UMP
    It applies to both.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • cjsracing
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 838

      #32
      Originally posted by Rock Farmer View Post
      The rounded backside of the spoiler helps to pull more air from underneath the deck, essentially a vacuum under the deck hence more rear downforce.
      Thanks. Will have to add that to my spoiler.

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      • 50Dixon50
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2019
        • 581

        #33
        This rule WON'T fix it but it sure is a step in the the right direction

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14310

          #34
          Originally posted by 50Dixon50 View Post
          This rule WON'T fix it but it sure is a step in the the right direction
          Why do you say that? Why would you not fix the body? How high did wedge cars hike?
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • President Clinton
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 490

            #35
            If y’all will look back..... the first race Ray had with this stupid rule he had a car on it’s roof!!!! lol A poor band aid,,,, fix the real problem...,, AERO

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            • 50Dixon50
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2019
              • 581

              #36
              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
              Why do you say that? Why would you not fix the body? How high did wedge cars hike?
              Only thing I said was the new rule would be a step in the right direction or that's a start oh if it were left up to me I would have the body's like they were in the late 90s FLAT

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              • Mod110s
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2018
                • 27

                #37
                Hey president clinton if you would go back and read what Ray Cook said, that car ended up on its roof because it spun out to avoid hitting bloomquist and another car come in and scooped it up with its nose. Not because he was hauling balls hiked up 5’

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14310

                  #38
                  Originally posted by 50Dixon50 View Post
                  Only thing I said was the new rule would be a step in the right direction or that's a start oh if it were left up to me I would have the body's like they were in the late 90s FLAT
                  I agree with you on bodies. I see no need to have chain police.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • President Clinton
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 490

                    #39
                    And if you see Rays statement about why we need this dumb rule????? To keep cars from turning over. Dig up the stats, it didn’t do what he said, and in all his on track testing didn’t slow his car down???? So we are still rolling cars and same speed,,,,,,,why do we need this rule???? Please go read G R Smiths social media post and you might have a better understanding

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                    • dirtcrazy4u
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 3212

                      #40
                      Well after reading these rules, yes I can understand what there attempting to do. But, if you read what JD posted, I gotta ask. Without a perfectly level area your numbers are going to be different from your shop floor plate to the pits of a race track.

                      I really don't feel they thought this one out. The uproar is going to be heard loud and clear by the guys that get docked or disqualified.

                      I think the can of worms they've opened is going to be at the forefront. It's going to put guys that don't follow the series regularly at a disadvantage because it surely is going to change set ups and how many local guys are going to go through doing this for a pass through series.

                      2020 story lines are increasing and the season is just starting.

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                      • chupp n bloomer fan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 11526

                        #41
                        I think we can all agree late model racing isn’t growing. So you implement changes. To keep going down the same road is idiocracy. So you make changes, people will be butt hurt, but they’ll get over it.
                        Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                        • Josh Bayko
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 8737

                          #42
                          I wonder what the reactions will be when Lucas implements the same rule on March 1st.
                          Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

                          Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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                          • fastford
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4059

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                            I wonder what the reactions will be when Lucas implements the same rule on March 1st.
                            i hope they wait till may , there finally coming back to TST in april and i want to see them run like they are now , plus my local boys will have to make changes for this one race and to have any chance of doing good , they need to run as they are....JMO...

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14310

                              #44
                              CnB,

                              Agreed, you need to do something. You need to do something that makes a difference and isn't an ordeal to enforce. This isn't it.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                              • Morgs153
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2020
                                • 842

                                #45
                                A few critics are being a bit too melodramatic by half. I worked tech in an asphalt LM series for eight years. I measured a lot of race cars and a lot of things on race cars in a whole lot of different pit areas (some nice, others not so nice). Asphalt racers tech a whole lot more stuff than dirt late models and that is probably what some people just aren't used to. For those who think you need a perfectly level surface plate for enforcement of this, you don't. Finding the best possible place at the venue you're at, for sure. The thing is, the location of the rule check has to be the same for everyone. Not surface plate perfect, but universal for everyone there. Now if I'm a competitor or crew chief and I show up at a track with my shop set up and this new rule is in place, the first place I visit is the droop station in the tech area. I check my data with their tech director and how they check it to make sure were jumping off legal at the start of the event. I don't wait until the end of the feature event to find out if I'm off. If the penalties are based on 16ths, are you going to try and cut it that close? Yeah, some will I suppose but that's on them. As a fan I'm not pro or con droop rule. I'm very interested in it from a tech standpoint and I think this is a relatively cheap implementation of a rule (many aren't). If this doesn't work as intended, it is easy to back away from.
                                Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.

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