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  • ImCryn2
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 885

    #31
    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    It wasn't Dennis' first time on the podium. Something is wrong here.
    I believe he was on the podium monday night, but tech last night was not held in the same place as it was monday. He took a $9300 penalty for missing the drivers meeting, essentially.

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    • Jking24
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 1519

      #32
      Originally posted by grt74 View Post
      i have to agree, if they are taking pics and then going to tech, an official should stay with the car until after it is inspected, if not 40lbs or more of weight could be added very easy by the crew, 20 pounds x 4 guys is 80 and easy to do
      how would adding weight in victory lane help. He went across the scales before he went to victory lane. And your dead wrong about all checking gets done at the scales. It's common practice to cross the scales then go to victory lane and then go to post race tech. Bottom line everything was covered in the driver's meeting witch he was probably not at. People talking is a piss poor excuse and nothing but that. if your unclear on something you go up and ask after the meeting or raise your hand and ask. But you gotta be their to do that And yes i know for a fact it was announced at the meeting. Sucks it happened to him. But it wasn't anyone's fault but his and heather's.

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      • fastford
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4059

        #33
        Originally posted by HoosierDirtFan View Post
        Just watched both videos on Dirt On Dirt.
        Sounds like a miscommunication. Casey Shuman did say it wasn't technically a DQ Dennis did however get last place points and money. Crap happens and move on to tonight's events. As good as he's been all so far this week it wouldn't surprise me to see him contend for another win and possibly get one. He and Sheppard have consistently been the two best cars at Volusia this week. Dennis keeps on working and figuring out that car he will be very good this year. Stuff happens and move on. Seems like the most logical thing to do.
        well said HDF , and for the drivers meeting being just for drivers , even though i agree , those days are gone , even on a regular sat night show , about half the drivers show up so at these big shows , probably 1/4 show up in person , never met mr erb , but have kept up with him some what and he seems like my kind of fellow , but as has been said , sh!t happens.........

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        • MEE
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 843

          #34
          Drivers were instructed to go to the World of Outlaws Command Center for tire samples. Dennis unfortunately didn't show up.

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          • grt74
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 1380

            #35
            Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
            how would adding weight in victory lane help. He went across the scales before he went to victory lane. And your dead wrong about all checking gets done at the scales. It's common practice to cross the scales then go to victory lane and then go to post race tech. Bottom line everything was covered in the driver's meeting witch he was probably not at. People talking is a piss poor excuse and nothing but that. if your unclear on something you go up and ask after the meeting or raise your hand and ask. But you gotta be their to do that And yes i know for a fact it was announced at the meeting. Sucks it happened to him. But it wasn't anyone's fault but his and heather's.
            general statement on the weight thing, and it sounds like you have it all figured out

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            • Clamped
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2016
              • 20

              #36
              Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
              Both Sheppard and Lanigan made it to tech with no issues. They actually paid attention to the drivers meeting.
              Very good point, Josh. But Brandon and Darrell have well staffed crews who are taking care of every last detail on their cars while they’re attending the drivers meetings. That is a luxury that Dennis doesn’t share. Food for thought.

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              • BloomerWon
                Banned
                • Dec 2019
                • 2399

                #37

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                • NeedforLMspeed
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 1905

                  #38
                  I agree with Bayko on post #23.
                  2020 race count:
                  1/2 of an event

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                  • NeedforLMspeed
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 1905

                    #39
                    Here's what the rule book says under section 5.2

                    5.2 – Drivers’ Meeting(s)
                    A. All drivers must attend the drivers’ meeting. Drivers in violation of not attending the Drivers’ Meeting could face a fine, loss of
                    driver’s points, owner’s points and/or suspension.
                    2020 race count:
                    1/2 of an event

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                    • TBSprintFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 616

                      #40
                      Lanigan fails droop rule after qualifying and is only docked 3 starting spots. Now how is that fair to the other drivers that passed it. If you fail you should start rear of the heat. This is where the WRG and WoO have their head up their
                      a $$ .

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                      • Jking24
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 1519

                        #41
                        Originally posted by TBSprintFan View Post
                        Lanigan fails droop rule after qualifying and is only docked 3 starting spots. Now how is that fair to the other drivers that passed it. If you fail you should start rear of the heat. This is where the WRG and WoO have their head up their a $$ .
                        No it's not the rule is not pass or fail it has provisions in it so that if your close the penalty is less. X height over equals x positions. Been this way since the day it was released. I don't personally like the rule but their was no favoritism in the lanigan situation.

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                        • fastford
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4059

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
                          No it's not the rule is not pass or fail it has provisions in it so that if your close the penalty is less. X height over equals x positions. Been this way since the day it was released. I don't personally like the rule but their was no favoritism in the lanigan situation.
                          that is pure bull sh!t , so , let me try to understand this rule , if you only cheat a little bit , then you only get penalized a little bit ???? great job opening this can of worms ray cook........

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                          • Jking24
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 1519

                            #43
                            I don't know if this worked but here is the rule if anyone is interested. As i stated i don't like it but here it is
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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #44
                              Originally posted by fastford View Post
                              that is pure bull sh!t , so , let me try to understand this rule , if you only cheat a little bit , then you only get penalized a little bit ???? great job opening this can of worms ray cook........
                              I think the idea is that it's a stupid rule with plenty of ways to pass then fail the same night, without changing anything. So, the made a sliding penalty scale to lessen the blow of failing such a random, stupid, rule.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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