What Erb Jr's penalty cost him

[Zonks32x]

As has been widely pointed out...
Dennis Erb Jr. is one of the good guys on the national touring scene. Emotions are high because a dude that most of us have high opinions of was stripped of a win, 10k, and the 1st place points for an event.

As has also been pointed out...
Had this been Bloomquist, Sheppard, JD, Pierce, Madden, Richards, or a few others, this thread and others would've been 20 pages long with props to WoO and wrg.

It's a raw deal with fingers to point both ways, but at the end of the day, the other two podium finishers figured it out.

I applaud Dennis for how he's handled it. Better than most, imho. I hope we see The One Man Band back in victory lane soon, and multiple times in 2020.

[Raceready]

As has been widely pointed out... Dennis Erb Jr. is one of the good guys on the national touring scene. Emotions are high because a dude that most of us have high opinions of was stripped of a win, 10k, and the 1st place points for an event. As has also been pointed out... Had this been Bloomquist, Sheppard, JD, Pierce, Madden, Richards, or a few others, this thread and others would've been 20 pages long with props to WoO and wrg. It's a raw deal with fingers to point both ways, but at the end of the day, the other two podium finishers figured it out. I applaud Dennis for how he's handled it. Better than most, imho. I hope we see The One Man Band back in victory lane soon, and multiple times in 2020.

I agree. A poor hard working fellow got cornholed on this deal. If this was anything more than The perceived Mark Richards Racing Series he would have had at least 2 honest series workers on 4 wheelers driving up to him and both waving their arms and wanting to convey to him { Please follow me, I'm ALERT enough to know that you are the obvious winner and I'm here to assist you to where you need to go to cement this win that everyone in attendance here tonight knows that you won} . I suspect that if the WoO doesn't want a silent BOYCOTT that they will admit that the cowardice that they pulled against Mr. Erb was only to insert the factory house car of a certain chassis manufacturer into victory lane. After this latest debacle of WoO I have no more time for this outfit. I will spend my money on a more honest series from now on.

[ClampedUp]

This conspiracy BS is unreal!!
For crying out loud even someone running some backwoods series knows for sure the winner and at least 2nd and 3rd go to tech.
How many (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) years has he been racing?
He just needs to own up that he had a brain fart and F'd up and move on.....

[Raceready]

Have to laugh ! Was it Rusty Wallace in NASCAR that won at a track and he took 2 extra laps because he had no idea how to get to where the victory lane was. BOTTOM LINE is that even NASCAR as rotten as they are in todays world isn't azzholly enough to pull the dirty stinking crap as the WoO pulled on Mr. Erb. They need to MAN UP and reinstate the win on him.

[Josh Bayko]

Dennis made a mistake literally no other driver who has ever finished top 3 in WoO, Lucas, or any other sanction has ever made, but it’s a sanction problem?

Do any of you even deal in reality?

[JabberJaws83]

I think there is fault on both ends, but at the end of it, it falls on Erb. You know that you have to be teched and its not going to be at your hauler. You have 10k you know you earned, go ask before you roll out of victory lane, don't move till you're told where to go. They weren't just going to skip tech that night. Everyone is up in arms just because of who happened to finish second, which is ridiculous.

[bullring]

When did this happen?

Droop rule violations at Volusia this week. Docking cars one position in qualifying for each 1/8” they are off. So set quick time but 3/8ths out of rule. Move from pole of first heat to outside front row of first heat. Real big penalty. If car is out of rule limit, they should be scored as dead last in qualifying. I don’t see penalties for being under weight being enforced by if you are 5, 20, or 100 pounds under. If your under you’re scored at back.

[Zonks32x]

Josh,

I agree with you 100%.
Somehow, my last post got misinterpreted that Dennis has zero blame in this deal, when that's not what I said.

Feel bad for the guy, but I don't believe it was WoO carrying Rocket's water pail as some apparently believe. They don't need the help.

[ZERO25]

I think there is fault on both ends, but at the end of it, it falls on Erb. You know that you have to be teched and its not going to be at your hauler. You have 10k you know you earned, go ask before you roll out of victory lane, don't move till you're told where to go. They weren't just going to skip tech that night. Everyone is up in arms just because of who happened to finish second, which is ridiculous.

YEP!......According to Shuman, they penalized Erb not dqed him. He received last place money and points. Had he been dqed, he would have gotten ZERO!

[Raceready]

Now that this has happened, I wont be camping out at tracks to watch the WoO go to pot like the Nasky series has. No more sitting at Lernerville for days at the Firecracker watching it rain ! Next thing you know they will keep throwing yellow flags at the end of races and having restarts until whoever they want to win, wins.

[Barbecueboy]

two wrongs.........Dennis and woo both........especially since it's on a technicality and was just an honest mistake by Dennis, just like it was an honest mistake for the woo official waiving him through or someone not being at the trailer when he went there.

[Josh Bayko]

Now that this has happened, I wont be camping out at tracks to watch the WoO go to pot like the Nasky series has. No more sitting at Lernerville for days at the Firecracker watching it rain ! Next thing you know they will keep throwing yellow flags at the end of races and having restarts until whoever they want to win, wins.

There are no words to describe how stupid you are.

[Raceready]

two wrongs.........Dennis and woo both........especially since it's on a technicality and was just an honest mistake by Dennis, just like it was an honest mistake for the woo official waiving him through or someone not being at the trailer when he went there.

How obviously CORRECT you are ! The common sense thinking fan can see without a shadow of a doubt that the way that it all went down that it was all about giving a certain driver a win. Dirty GREED ! Nothing more and nothing less.

[Barbecueboy]

I don't think for a second that they did it on purpose just to give bshepp the win......think they just effed up and made a mistake, just like Dennis did.

Difference is, Dennis will admit it......they won't.......ever.

[Jking24]

I don't think for a second that they did it on purpose just to give bshepp the win......think they just effed up and made a mistake, just like Dennis did.Difference is, Dennis will admit it......they won't.......ever.

Im not trying to stir the pot here. But it wasn't a mistake by woo officials to waive dennis through. He went to the area where they were checking decks and they waived him through to the scales they waived him through because he wasn't supposed to be their. That was his mistake not theirs. I do think they probably could of handled it differently but i don't know wehere their rules stand in that situation because ive not read any of that. But i also think he should have known better than to go to his trailer. He should have sat at the woo trailer until they came from the infield because he knew he was gonna have to get a tie sample taken their . And common sense tells you that sn't gonna be until after the mod race is over.