Easter race

[fastford]

New York is zipping up 100+ black bags a day. And the peak is still a ways off.

Chicago had several nights they zipped more than 100 bags from fools shooting each other , it does seem this virus has slowed that kind of thing way down , maybe a little good will come out of this.......

[t3r3e3]

Funny chit reading some of the thoughts of people, especially you bozo's that want to make this a political stance for your party. How about the a holes that just don't care ?

A guy I play cards with said screw this I'm going on my cruise. He boosted how the government is full of it and there not telling him what to do.

Well they've been back for 3 weeks. His wife is in the hospital on a ventilator, and the cases in his neighborhood are off the charts and it looks like a ghost street.

Relax people, use common sense, and this could pass by in a short time. Be stupid, and it's going to be here a lot longer.

Trouble is we have a nation chock full of stupid, greedy people. With a lack of consistent, messaging and coherent direction from the federal government it’s been left to the states to implement life-saving, spread-limiting measures. Some, including Ohio and Kentucky have done quite well. Others, like Tennessee and Georgia are whistling past the graveyard. Then there’s the problem of individual states competing with one another for finite resources because the feds aren’t providing top down leadership on the orderly distribution of medical supplies. It’s a straight up sh1t show right now, and I hope that all of you are lucky enough to live in a state where the governors are taking this seriously. DeWine has done a fine job here in Ohio.

[t3r3e3]

I think what some are missing is if Trump hadn't stop the travel from China and states would not have ordered social distancing those numbers would have been far worse than they are now or could have been. Italy within 2 weeks went from 200+ deaths to over 4,000 and had they not ordered the stay at home think of what it could have been. I'm just glad so far that some are listening to the experts. A lot could change in the next 3 weeks so let's see where are then. Would it be nice to have churches full by Easter sure it would but, that just might not be real alistic but, Not sure how we can fault Trump for wanting that to happen but, whether it does or not that's a different thing.

What Trump did was good, but he turned around and squandered critical weeks and multiple opportunities. At that point the virus was already here. Critical weeks passed while the downplaying from the White House continued. The nation was not ramping up a unified response or aggressively limiting social interaction. Travel to other infected areas continued. People continued to congregate in large groups, and in many cases still are in states where stay at home orders have not been made. Misinformation continued to flow on the nature of the disease. Once it was apparent the disease could not be spun the tune changed in DC.

At the end of the day the federal and state government’s responses to this will be studied for years by infectious disease personnel and historians. History is likely not going to be kind to our nation’s response. The ultimate hope is that we as a nation get our act together so that we respond better the next time this happens. It’s going to happen again. Take care of yourselves, and keep your loved ones safe.

[Jking24]

Im not a political person but i seem to remember trump trying to stop all travel in or around China almost two months ago and being hailed racist as usual because of it.

[Trippy McSidewalk]

The two sides will never work together in a meaningful way until term limits are enacted. It is just a high stakes long game now. Limit retirement benefits for serving to poverty level chart. For 2020 that would be $12760. Medical care for congress should be provided by the VA. That way we know it will be a good system to treat the troops.

[STRONGERTHANDIRT]

Dr. Fauci says deaths from virus in the U.S. could range from 100 to 200 thousand people.

[t3r3e3]

The two sides will never work together in a meaningful way until term limits are enacted. It is just a high stakes long game now. Limit retirement benefits for serving to poverty level chart. For 2020 that would be $12760. Medical care for congress should be provided by the VA. That way we know it will be a good system to treat the troops.

Until they take the money out of politics big business and the rich will get their way at the expense of the working class and ordinary folk. Pay for campaigns out of fixed funds, spend it how you want but when it's gone it's gone. No Super PACS, no dark money, no lobbying, none of it. I've long thought our country would be better served by jury duty-style congressional appointments in the House of Representatives. Meaning, you get a good cross section of average folks in a room to decide on common sense measures to benefit the population. These endless debates on free crap for everyone or endless giveaways to corporations and the wealthy would not happen. Generally, average people agree on much more than they disagree on.

[GEAR_HEAD]

Everybody keeps saying Trump squandered several weeks. How quickly we forget that the communist DemonRats were putting the entire government through a sham impeachment at that time instead of concentrating on important issues. Why hasn't anybody mentioned that?????

[t3r3e3]

Everybody keeps saying Trump squandered several weeks. How quickly we forget that the communist DemonRats were putting the entire government through a sham impeachment at that time instead of concentrating on important issues. Why hasn't anybody mentioned that?????

That’s been over with since February 5th. Whether it was a sham is debatable, and whether Trump is shady is not. He has a long history of dirty deeds, both personally and in business. All the time since February 5th was mostly wasted feeding the public lies, misinformation, and downplaying what was coming. Closing Chinese travel was a good move, but we already had cases stateside.

The inaction at the top of the government during that time is going to cost us thousands of American lives. There’s no way to argue otherwise. We had an initial window to prepare, and get things squared away and blew it. Here we are at the end of March with 130,000+ cases, 2400+ deaths, several major cities approaching critical care limits, and the nation is struggling to catch up. Some states still aren’t taking appropriate measures. States are still fighting each other for supplies. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Stay safe, and keep your loved ones safe.

[lurker]

The inaction at the top of the government during that time is going to cost us thousands of American lives. There’s no way to argue otherwise.

So the same can be said about H1N1 during the Obama administration. Right? "There’s no way to argue otherwise", right?

And speaking of H1N1 during the Obama administration, where are ALL of the ventilators and PPE?

[fastford]

and why was the border that it came across not closed ??????

[mcarter815]

and why was the border that it came across not closed ??????

It came over on airplanes.

[Barbecueboy]

It came over on airplanes.

No........it wasn't limited to airplanes.

it came across on unicorns and the tooth fairy smuggled it in.

Still hung up on that wall thing aren't you? There is much more to protecting our borders than the wall you guys just like to argue about.

Idiot.

[Clayton_Wetters]

It came over on airplanes.

The airplanes crossed borders.

[Highside Hustler25]

I think what some are missing is if Trump hadn't stop the travel from China and states would not have ordered social distancing those numbers would have been far worse than they are now or could have been. Italy within 2 weeks went from 200+ deaths to over 4,000 and had they not ordered the stay at home think of what it could have been. I'm just glad so far that some are listening to the experts. A lot could change in the next 3 weeks so let's see where are then. Would it be nice to have churches full by Easter sure it would but, that just might not be realistic but, Not sure how we can fault Trump for wanting that to happen but, whether it does or not that's a different thing.

Well said.

Hopefully the numbers are correct, but Italy has gone from 6000 cases a day to around 3000 today. If those numbers ar right, maybe it has peaked there. Italy was about 11days ahead of the U.S. I'd have to think we responded a little better than Italy and if so, maybe we might peak in a week or so. Just a numbers thing as I know as much as the next guy which is diddly. Everybody stay safe and don't forget to wash yer hands.