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  • Raceready
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 4737

    #61
    Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
    The only swine we were worried about back then , was the PIG in the White house! He turned all of Washington into a pigpen!.... TRUTH!!!
    DARN STRAIGHT !!!!! There were 12,000 cases before it was outed that we even had a virus. He was too busy paying bands outrageous amounts of money to put on concerts in the White House. Not to mention all of the vacations he went on. He took more vacations than any and all of the prior presidents in U. S. history ! ! Also the Head Nerd in Charge always used 2 U.S. 1 jets for every trip. Of course that is said to be the custom of a Muslim marriage because the wife is not considered a human being but merely a piece of property so that is why Michelle and her 27 assistants traveled in the air space behind. By the way, the Dirty Dems criticized Laura Bush because she had 1 personal assistant ! !

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    • jr29
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 829

      #62
      Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
      You are not the first to bring it up.....wonder why it was such a non issue back then??? Hmmmmmmm?
      Around 12,000 people died from H1N1 in the United States. Coronavirus will have killed 4 times that many by the end of this week.
      Find something new to complain about.

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      • racincowboy02
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 1056

        #63
        I get that the government is trying to keep the spread of the disease down and putting all of these restrictions on us and these stay at home orders in place is for our benefit but at what point do these orders and restrictions start to infringe on the constitution and our natural born rights let alone our civil rights

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        • jr29
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 829

          #64
          Originally posted by racincowboy02 View Post
          I get that the government is trying to keep the spread of the disease down and putting all of these restrictions on us and these stay at home orders in place is for our benefit but at what point do these orders and restrictions start to infringe on the constitution and our natural born rights let alone our civil rights
          I don't know the answer to that. I do think it's a worthy discussion though.

          I do know that a Republican administration put these national orders in place. Can't blame the dems. These protesters are wearing their Trump gear while protesting his policies and orders. Larry Hogan, republican governor of Maryland, said today that he is still abiding by the guidelines the federal government put in place regarding reopening. People are mad about it.
          I think these protesters are babies who just want an enemy at all times.

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          • racincowboy02
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 1056

            #65
            I get what you are saying but who is to say that the dems aren't behind the CDC and the WHO and the other health officials I just don't get the panic but I do get it at the same time. My question is what is going on either in Washington or else where that they are trying to turn our eyes away from

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            • jr29
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 829

              #66
              Originally posted by racincowboy02 View Post
              I get what you are saying but who is to say that the dems aren't behind the CDC and the WHO and the other health officials I just don't get the panic but I do get it at the same time. My question is what is going on either in Washington or else where that they are trying to turn our eyes away from
              The vice president is the head of the Coronavirus task force. I don't think there is any grand conspiracy here. I think there is a pandemic and all of these elected officials are trying to figure it out on the fly.
              Is there some conspiracy business coming out of China....almost certainly. We'll have to try to figure out exactly what as we go along.

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              • racincowboy02
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 1056

                #67
                You make a pretty good point and I do agree. I have a hard time believing that China was experimenting with biological weapons or something along that line but then again I could be dead wrong

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                  Around 12,000 people died from H1N1 in the United States. Coronavirus will have killed 4 times that many by the end of this week.
                  Find something new to complain about.
                  Guessing those 12 thousand lives weren't worth sounding some sort of alarm about?

                  Look at the coverage this was receiving prior to the 12k number of deaths from covod19, ....why the difference this time versus last?

                  Got an answer, or just some more denial?
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • manwplan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 351

                    #69
                    Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                    I don't know the answer to that. I do think it's a worthy discussion though.

                    I do know that a Republican administration put these national orders in place. Can't blame the dems. These protesters are wearing their Trump gear while protesting his policies and orders. Larry Hogan, republican governor of Maryland, said today that he is still abiding by the guidelines the federal government put in place regarding reopening. People are mad about it.
                    I think these protesters are babies who just want an enemy at all times.
                    Yes the White House made these guidelines. Please note the word guidelines. They also made the guidelines to a date of April 30. The point of Democrat (and even some Republican) Governors going too far is valid. They've turned these guidelines into unconstitutional laws. Going so far as arresting people for playing T-ball with their daughter, surfing by themselves, banning garden seed sales and so on. Virginia has extended their lock down into June. I believe most rational people were fine with what the White House did. The States in most instances have gone way too far.

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                    • manwplan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 351

                      #70
                      Also most of these people have never protested in their lives because they've been too busy working. Saying they are looking for an enemy at all times is ridiculous. I've been fortunate to still have a job. Other's have not. It's not fair to criticize someone when you don't know the situation. Yes I know there are some trouble makers (looking for an enemy as you say) at these protests. But most people just want their lives back and be able to provide for their families. Some people are already ruined and will never recover.

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                      • kidrock
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 16427

                        #71
                        Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                        Yes the White House made these guidelines. Please note the word guidelines. They also made the guidelines to a date of April 30. The point of Democrat (and even some Republican) Governors going too far is valid. They've turned these guidelines into unconstitutional laws. Going so far as arresting people for playing T-ball with their daughter, surfing by themselves, banning garden seed sales and so on. Virginia has extended their lock down into June. I believe most rational people were fine with what the White House did. The States in most instances have gone way too far.
                        I have to agree that arresting people for playing t-ball with their child and surfing by themselves is just plain wrong. I'm all for social distancing as it seems to have been working so far but, doing that kind of stuff is BS though. It should be interesting to see what happens in the states that are opening back up. If they do it right I don't see a problem with it but, if they don't they might right back where they are today! Good luck to all of them!

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                        • kidrock
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 16427

                          #72
                          Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                          Also most of these people have never protested in their lives because they've been too busy working. Saying they are looking for an enemy at all times is ridiculous. I've been fortunate to still have a job. Other's have not. It's not fair to criticize someone when you don't know the situation. Yes I know there are some trouble makers (looking for an enemy as you say) at these protests. But most people just want their lives back and be able to provide for their families. Some people are already ruined and will never recover.

                          I feel bad for anyone who is losing their business. Being a small business owner I can identify with them but, I would think at the end of the day they are thankful they are still alive and just maybe they can find away to start their business again.

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                          • jr29
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 829

                            #73
                            Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                            Also most of these people have never protested in their lives because they've been too busy working. Saying they are looking for an enemy at all times is ridiculous. I've been fortunate to still have a job. Other's have not. It's not fair to criticize someone when you don't know the situation. Yes I know there are some trouble makers (looking for an enemy as you say) at these protests. But most people just want their lives back and be able to provide for their families. Some people are already ruined and will never recover.
                            Were they out of work during the Tea Party protests during the Obama administration too ? Those things were huge and these are the same people.

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                            • jr29
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 829

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                              Guessing those 12 thousand lives weren't worth sounding some sort of alarm about?

                              Look at the coverage this was receiving prior to the 12k number of deaths from covod19, ....why the difference this time versus last?

                              Got an answer, or just some more denial?
                              EVERYONE knew about H1N1. The reason we knew about was because the media covered it.
                              Has this been covered more ? Yes it has been and rightfully so.

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #75
                                Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                                EVERYONE knew about H1N1. The reason we knew about was because the media covered it.
                                Has this been covered more ? Yes it has been and rightfully so.
                                the media covered it for about 10 days.....after 12k had already died.

                                Do your homework before coming to class please.
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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