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  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #76
    Originally posted by jr29 View Post
    Were they out of work during the Tea Party protests during the Obama administration too ? Those things were huge and these are the same people.
    Nope....not the same people at all.

    YouTube is your friend.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • Clayton_Wetters
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2019
      • 1086

      #77
      Originally posted by jr29 View Post
      Were they out of work during the Tea Party protests during the Obama administration too ? Those things were huge and these are the same people.
      In many cases Yes they were out of work then too, because Obummer regulated the crap out of businesses and ran many out of the country, and others couldn't make it because they were regulated out of business. Their money taken for green BS that wound up in no demand, because they were illogical, other than their real purpose, kill small business and the economy.

      Trump brought much of this back to the country and the left is angry. I suppose the fools that follow this party blindly must not care.
      I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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      • jr29
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 829

        #78
        Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
        Nope....not the same people at all.

        YouTube is your friend.
        Yes they are.

        Stop with the vagaries.

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        • jr29
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 829

          #79
          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetters View Post
          In many cases Yes they were out of work then too, because Obummer regulated the crap out of businesses and ran many out of the country, and others couldn't make it because they were regulated out of business. Their money taken for green BS that wound up in no demand, because they were illogical, other than their real purpose, kill small business and the economy.

          Trump brought much of this back to the country and the left is angry. I suppose the fools that follow this party blindly must not care.
          The other guy said they've always been working until this pandemic.
          Who am I supposed to believe?

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          • jr29
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 829

            #80
            Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
            the media covered it for about 10 days.....after 12k had already died.

            Do your homework before coming to class please.
            No one has answered my question about the Obama administration's response.
            If this pandemic has been blown out of proportion and the response has been over the top and Obama did nothing about H1N1 then I guess you approve of his response ....right ?

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            • Clayton_Wetters
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2019
              • 1086

              #81
              Originally posted by jr29 View Post
              No one has answered my question about the Obama administration's response.
              If this pandemic has been blown out of proportion and the response has been over the top and Obama did nothing about H1N1 then I guess you approve of his response ....right ?
              At this point, there is no response that matters to you other than anything that the left does is good and that the right does is bad. Are these conversations getting anywhere, no.
              I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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              • mcarter815
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2016
                • 1690

                #82
                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                the media covered it for about 10 days.....after 12k had already died.

                Do your homework before coming to class please.
                What do you consider reporting on it?

                Here is a CNN article published on the day the CDC announced the first two H1N1 patients in the US.
                The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating two cases of swine flu detected in children in the San Diego, California, area last week.

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                • mcarter815
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1690

                  #83
                  This politico article from April 2009 makes it sound like the cable new outlets were talking about H1N1 a lot very early on.

                  https://www.politico.com/story/2009/...fingers-021776
                  Reports of swine flu outbreaks have come in from five different states so far, but all Washington has caught is a contagious case of finger-pointing.

                  As the cable networks went 24/7 with influenza coverage Monday, liberal bloggers went after Republican Sens. Susan Collins and Arlen Specter for working to slice $780 million in pandemic planning funds from President Barack Obama’s economic stimulus package.

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                  • jr29
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 829

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetters View Post
                    At this point, there is no response that matters to you other than anything that the left does is good and that the right does is bad. Are these conversations getting anywhere, no.

                    I concede things fairly often.
                    I didn't love Obama. I thought the Obamacare rollout was a disaster.
                    Tom cotton, a Republican senator from arkansas who I despise, was on top of this Coronavirus thing before anyone. He was doing his job.

                    Two examples right there. Boom.

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                    • jr29
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 829

                      #85
                      Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                      This politico article from April 2009 makes it sound like the cable new outlets were talking about H1N1 a lot very early on.

                      https://www.politico.com/story/2009/...fingers-021776
                      I'm sure the Trump folks on here have a problem with Politico.

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #86
                        Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                        No one has answered my question about the Obama administration's response.
                        If this pandemic has been blown out of proportion and the response has been over the top and Obama did nothing about H1N1 then I guess you approve of his response ....right ?
                        It's never all or nothing with me....I'm a little more reasonable than that.....you should try it.

                        Somewhere in the middle on both responses would have been more appropriate.

                        Don't you think?
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • Barbecueboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 18116

                          #87
                          Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                          What do you consider reporting on it?

                          Here is a CNN article published on the day the CDC announced the first two H1N1 patients in the US.
                          https://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/2...nia/index.html
                          I'm using today's reporting standards as a comparison......find anything remotely close between the media coverage of the two corona viruses?
                          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                          • WisWildManFan
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 3223

                            #88
                            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                            I feel bad for anyone who is losing their business. Being a small business owner I can identify with them but, I would think at the end of the day they are thankful they are still alive and just maybe they can find away to start their business again.
                            It’s a shame you weren’t around for the first Great Depression. You could of gave your thoughts to them right before they jumped out the window.
                            Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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                            • mcarter815
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 1690

                              #89
                              Does this count as the media reporting on H1N1 before 12,000 deaths?

                              Apr 30, 2009

                              Schools in 14 states have shut their doors on more than 160,000 children as the nation's swine flu crisis enters its second week.

                              The revelation came on a day that the CDC case count rose to 109 confirmed infections in 11 states. South Carolina was the newest addition to the official list of states affected.

                              State health officials, however, have reported a number of cases that have not yet been confirmed by the CDC. Adding these results -- including the first two cases in Virginia announced Thursday evening -- would mean a total of at least 134 cases in 19 states.

                              On Thursday, the swine flu outbreak caused schools in 14 states to shut their doors on more than 160,000 schoolchildren, and additional closures could affect as many as 223,700 students in 17 states.

                              In total, more than 100 school systems have closed at least one school as the nation tries to stifle the spread of the disease. In Texas Wednesday night, officials announced that the entire Fort Worth school system would be closed through at least May 8 as a precaution, idling 80,000 children in 140 schools.
                              The World Health Organization raised its pandemic flu alert again Wednesday to phase 5, which denotes that a pandemic is imminent. On Thursday, WHO reported that the number of lab-confirmed cases worldwide rose to 236, up from 148 on Wednesday.

                              In Mexico, where the flu outbreak was believed to have started, the government took more drastic action Thursday, ordering all nonessential businesses to close.

                              Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who has been criticized for his low profile during the crisis, addressed the nation Wednesday night and told Mexicans to stay home.

                              "There is no safer place to protect yourself against catching swine flu than in your house," he said.

                              On Thursday, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Peru became the latest countries to report swine flu cases, which have now been reported in at least 14 countries.

                              The first death from swine flu in the United States occurred Wednesday, when a 22-month-old baby boy in Texas died.

                              The worst hit state so far is New York, with 51 confirmed cases.
                              To fight the epidemic, the Obama administration is asking Congress for $1.5 billion. White House press secretary Gibbs said the president was requesting the funds "out of an abundance of caution" to "enhance our nation's capability to respond to the potential spread of this outbreak."

                              The CDC has become the center for the swine flu investigation. It is one of only four laboratories in the world that have the expertise to unravel a novel flu strain.

                              "What we're trying to do is to identify how bad, how good, the swine flu is currently operating -- is it expanding, is it contracting, is it maintaining a steady state," said Phillip Navin, director of the Division of Emergency Operations at the CDC.

                              With the uptick in cases, the CDC shipped more antivirals and sent additional teams into the field.

                              "I think at the moment we need to be looking forward and making sure that we're doing everything that we can to keep people from getting sick," said Dr. Steve Reed, director of the CDC's Influenza Coordination Unit.

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #90
                                Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                                I'm sure the Trump folks on here have a problem with Politico.
                                You're not even real sure who the trump folks are....just that you aren't supposed to like them....as you're told.
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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