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  • mcarter815
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 1690

    #121
    Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
    That and the fact that his numbers are ridiculously inflated.....NYC HAS NOT HAD 24k covid deaths.....just more bullsh!tery from the expert.
    I didn't say that NYC has had 24k covid deaths. They have had 24k deaths in total over the past 39 days. Normally they would have slightly more than 6k in that same time period. There's no copy/paste errors in my numbers.

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    • Barbecueboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 18116

      #122
      Well almost 11k were actual covid deaths......that leaves almost 13k deaths from something else in NYC.

      You say the average is 6100 give or take over the same time frame......your numbers don't work again.
      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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      • Barbecueboy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 18116

        #123
        Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
        I didn't say that NYC has had 24k covid deaths. They have had 24k deaths in total over the past 39 days. Normally they would have slightly more than 6k in that same time period. There's no copy/paste errors in my numbers.
        And so you can see your bullshot unravel ......and I'll use the prop you left me above.

        You are implying NYC has had over 24k deaths in last 39 days.....wrong........your implication is that somehow by backing out the normal 6k average deaths in the same time frame that the other 17k plus deaths are from covid....also wrong.

        Your numbers are incorrect.....sorry
        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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        • mcarter815
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1690

          #124
          Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
          Well almost 11k were actual covid deaths......that leaves almost 13k deaths from something else in NYC.

          You say the average is 6100 give or take over the same time frame......your numbers don't work again.
          That's likely because we are undercounting Covid-19 deaths. We are seeing actual deaths exceeding expected deaths all over the world wherever there is a Covid-19 outbreak.

          https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...ross-countries

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          • Barbecueboy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 18116

            #125
            Come back after you sharpen your pencil.
            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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            • NormP
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 2262

              #126
              The problem with NYC is that they are not being honest with their numbers. They are counting deaths as coronavirus deaths even when the patient had no symptoms or had not been tested.

              For example, you have a massive heart attack that requires you to be placed in ICU for 4-5 days or 2 weeks or whatever. Because all the ICU beds are full of coronavirus patients, you die. Your death is now listed as "due to coronavirus." Very dishonest.

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              • Barbecueboy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 18116

                #127
                Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                That's likely because we are undercounting Covid-19 deaths. We are seeing actual deaths exceeding expected deaths all over the world wherever there is a Covid-19 outbreak.

                https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...ross-countries
                What's likely is that you don't really understand the information you are so def at copying and pasting.......under reporting an amount that is almost twice the actual amount (according to your numbers) is preposterous .
                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #128
                  Originally posted by NormP View Post
                  The problem with NYC is that they are not being honest with their numbers. They are counting deaths as coronavirus deaths even when the patient had no symptoms or had not been tested.

                  For example, you have a massive heart attack that requires you to be placed in ICU for 4-5 days or 2 weeks or whatever. Because all the ICU beds are full of coronavirus patients, you die. Your death is now listed as "due to coronavirus." Very dishonest.
                  It's only dishonest when they get called on it......ask them, they will verify.
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • mcarter815
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 1690

                    #129
                    NYC isn't miscounting their total number of deaths regardless of cause of death. All they have to do is report how many bodies show up at the morgue.

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #130
                      Well guess how many dead NYC residents haven't showed up at the morgue in NYC in the last 39 days, ......24k of them.

                      Try again
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #131
                        Easy like Sunday morning......
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • mcarter815
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1690

                          #132
                          Check my math. The state public health department reports that an average of 146 people died per day in 2017. They also report that from March 11 - April 19 2020 there were 9101 people that were confirmed to have died from Covid-19, 4582 who probably died from Covid-19, and 10,099 who died and are not known to be confirmed or probably Covid-19 deaths.

                          9101 + 4582 + 10099 = 23,782 total deaths in NYC over a period of 46 days.
                          146 * 46 = 6,716 total deaths are expected over the same time period in NYC going off of the 2017 average.

                          23782 - 6716 = 17,066 more deaths than are expected.


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                          • over4T
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 1101

                            #133
                            Lady who pens an often funny column in our local newspaper recently wrote about how the 24 hour a day stay at home deal often strains a marriage with all the togetherness. She said she intercepted an e mail from her husband to his brother that said "If I die during this period it won't be from the Coronavirus."

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                            • Barbecueboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 18116

                              #134
                              Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                              Check my math. The state public health department reports that an average of 146 people died per day in 2017. They also report that from March 11 - April 19 2020 there were 9101 people that were confirmed to have died from Covid-19, 4582 who probably died from Covid-19, and 10,099 who died and are not known to be confirmed or probably Covid-19 deaths.

                              9101 + 4582 + 10099 = 23,782 total deaths in NYC over a period of 46 days.
                              146 * 46 = 6,716 total deaths are expected over the same time period in NYC going off of the 2017 average.

                              23782 - 6716 = 17,066 more deaths than are expected.


                              https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...7-in-nyc-a-day
                              NYC is reporting a total of 10,657 covid deaths as of 3 hrs ago ......if the other 13k plus deaths are double the norm of average deaths during that time frame then somebody better check it out and see why.

                              Or call don lemon and tell him trump is behind it and let them do the rest.
                              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #135
                                And btw, and not that it really matters ......but you first said 39 days....now you say 46.

                                It's kind of different
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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