Who is telling the truth about SLMs?

[Josh Bayko]

Tracks that run more than one class of late models are cutting the nose off all of them.

[dirtSLMracing]

Mastersbilt..

I know engines are expensive.. my counter to that is not all tracks take a big motor. Guy with a good limited can be competitive at some tracks but get beat on $5000 shock packages. Not saying my shock idea is awesome just a thought.

[Waldo]

Two things you need.
#1. A stop watch
#2. Air pressure gauge.
You will see the truth.

[Waldo]

If tracks posted qualifying times for Crates and supers that ran at that track on the same night you would see.

[Jim11h]

Super latemodel is a class in which aluminum or steel fits and rules are limited to allow almost any combination of car motor suspension chassis design etc.

Crate, limited, etc have more specific rules!

Lots of areas the tracks have 3-4 classes that all look identical and that kills the headliner in this situation. Super, limited, 604, & 602 all at same track in own divisions, you really think the casual fan knows difference? All they know is its a latemodel

[Highside Hustler25]

I remember crates trying to compete at FC years ago. The times just weren't there. Some have tried it on the Hell tour before also with little success.

[Waldo]

I went to a race in S.C.... I won't name the track, dosen't matter. It was early March this year if I remember correctly. Long story short, there were like 25 super Lates there and around 25 Crates. Well the guy who sat on the pole for the Crate feature ran a lap that would have qualified him in like 10th place in the Super feature that paid $10,000 to win. I noticed the time he set but nobody else did......

[Waldo]

Also in the South in the Blue Ridge Outlaw Latemodel series, guys in crates and 525 motors out run supers weekly. The series runs all of them combined.

[Waldo]

Ricky Weeks won like 13 races in the series a couple of years ago running a 525 all season long. Mind you it was like a 30 race schedule.

[fryefan]

Except for a few exceptions, open late models are regionally or nationally sanctioned. Weekly late model programs are mainly crate late models or limited late models.

Financially that makes sense for most promoters.

[Waldo]

It should also make sense to local drivers, but just as I posted above, for some it don't. They spend thousands more than some other local guys who are beating them on weekly bases.

[Jim11h]

Nobody ever got into racing saying I'll be happy retiring from 4cyl, hobby stock, or even crate latemodel. Everyone pinnacle different but in latemodel world it's a super, just sayin! But y'all keep twisting the bs how ever you like to make fit your theory

[nc mudcat]

Also in the South in the Blue Ridge Outlaw Latemodel series, guys in crates and 525 motors out run supers weekly. The series runs all of them combined.

My favorite touring series, bar none. You got a car, you can run with us. It doesn't pay much, so the big guns ain't coming, which makes it even better for competition. They put on fantastic races!

[EvelB7]

The Blue Ridge Outlaw group is good for the area, but I will tell you- go to Wythe without a super motor and you are in the way.... Most tracks they run the limited or 525 takes the money. (not many true Supers show up).

[Krooser]

Do what we did years ago...everybody ran the same class.... Poor boys, rich guys and those who couldn't tell the difference.

Group qualify and put the slower cars in the B main.

I'd sooner see 30 cars in one class than 30 cars split between 3 or 4.