Originally posted by NeedforLMspeed
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Confederate Flag in Victory lane at Smokey Mountain
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I don't disagree with you. NASCAR has been viewed as pushing away it's core fan base for years in its search for newer and younger fans by making so many changes. This may have been the nail in the coffin for the original hardcore fan base.
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The problem is with the way people handle things. Nascar knows if they Ban the BLM or Pride flag it will be met with violence from the left. FOR THE MOST PART folks on the right are not violent, and I'm not talking about the far right.. those are about 1% and are nuts.Last edited by dirtSLMracing; 06-15-2020, 02:30 PM.
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That is true but if you're clearly losing fans, banning something like a flag because ONE driver spoke out about it probably isn't going to win you fans back. I feel bad for RPM because now they have their hands tied if they were to ever not re-sign him to a new contract due to on track performance. Which is pretty dismal.
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You're right, but it is also NASCAR's right, or any private enterprise for that matter, to dictate what can and cannot be displayed on its properties. Just like you have the right to display whatever you want or keep whatever you want from being displayed on your private property.Originally posted by NeedforLMspeed View PostIt someone's right to display the Confederate flag just as much as it's someone's right to display the gay pride flag.
What the flag represents is certainly a hotly debated topic and an argument that can be had. However, no ones rights are being infringed upon here.
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The quote rarely works so I will just reply in general. Maybe it was a coincidence the Confederate Flag was taken down at Cherokee for a camera problem at the same time as the Nascar ban. Just funny how Lucas Oil TV went plain stupid to avoid showing the flag in victory lane. Those that dont care about the Confederate Flag have that right.. those same people will be mad when something they do care about is taken away... it WILL happen. Just seems the offended are winning right now. When will the majority that believe in freedom push back?
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You still got yours gpf flying?🤭🤭Originally posted by NeedforLMspeed View PostIt someone's right to display the Confederate flag just as much as it's someone's right to display the gay pride flag.
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It someone's right to display the Confederate flag just as much as it's someone's right to display the gay pride flag.
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Great post, the funny thing is it’s not even an American flag, try to ban that then we have a problem.Originally posted by RayCook53fan View PostJust my .02, I associate the confederate flag with a cool time period, the late 70s/80s, Smokey and the Bandit, Six Pack, 80s Nascar, etc. I don't see a single thing racist or anything similar about it. More just southern pride, and good ol boy, good ol days life style.However, regardless of who does/doesn't ban the flag, NASCAR, Lucas Oil, Florence Speedway, I am still going to watch the race and not give a DAM* about a flag. I am not there for a flag, except to see who gets to the checkered one first. And even then, they could change it to purple and yellow and I couldn't care less. I'm not going to let a freakin flag and what it does or doesn't mean keep me from enjoying an event of any kind.Also, PSA I have a classic State of Georgia flag with the "confederate" flag as a part of it on my wall in my man cave. I just feel like all this uproar about boycotting things or getting all up in arms about a flag (more so with NASCAR) is just ridiculous. I mean I love racetrack corn dogs, but if all racetracks banned corndogs because they're unhealthy (or whatever else) guess what... I'll just eat a hamburger or nachos and go on with my life!
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Spot on. People want a reason to be offended in todays world.Originally posted by RayCook53fan View PostJust my .02, I associate the confederate flag with a cool time period, the late 70s/80s, Smokey and the Bandit, Six Pack, 80s Nascar, etc. I don't see a single thing racist or anything similar about it. More just southern pride, and good ol boy, good ol days life style.
However, regardless of who does/doesn't ban the flag, NASCAR, Lucas Oil, Florence Speedway, I am still going to watch the race and not give a DAM* about a flag. I am not there for a flag, except to see who gets to the checkered one first. And even then, they could change it to purple and yellow and I couldn't care less. I'm not going to let a freakin flag and what it does or doesn't mean keep me from enjoying an event of any kind.
Also, PSA I have a classic State of Georgia flag with the "confederate" flag as a part of it on my wall in my man cave. I just feel like all this uproar about boycotting things or getting all up in arms about a flag (more so with NASCAR) is just ridiculous.
I mean I love racetrack corn dogs, but if all racetracks banned corndogs because they're unhealthy (or whatever else) guess what... I'll just eat a hamburger or nachos and go on with my life!
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Just my .02, I associate the confederate flag with a cool time period, the late 70s/80s, Smokey and the Bandit, Six Pack, 80s Nascar, etc. I don't see a single thing racist or anything similar about it. More just southern pride, and good ol boy, good ol days life style.
However, regardless of who does/doesn't ban the flag, NASCAR, Lucas Oil, Florence Speedway, I am still going to watch the race and not give a DAM* about a flag. I am not there for a flag, except to see who gets to the checkered one first. And even then, they could change it to purple and yellow and I couldn't care less. I'm not going to let a freakin flag and what it does or doesn't mean keep me from enjoying an event of any kind.
Also, PSA I have a classic State of Georgia flag with the "confederate" flag as a part of it on my wall in my man cave. I just feel like all this uproar about boycotting things or getting all up in arms about a flag (more so with NASCAR) is just ridiculous.
I mean I love racetrack corn dogs, but if all racetracks banned corndogs because they're unhealthy (or whatever else) guess what... I'll just eat a hamburger or nachos and go on with my life!
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Yep people sit there all slack jawed and listen and read but they don’t think, too stupid and lazy to do research.Originally posted by Barbecueboy View PostExactly the reason people should rely on more than one party lines talking head to form their final opinion.......do their own research, multiple sources,give it some serious thought,be open minded,form opinion.......ah the good old days.
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Whats real scary is it could be some 15 year old kid on the other side of the keyboard that doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground and people will react to it or push the info as fact without ever giving it a second thoughtOriginally posted by Barbecueboy View PostExactly the reason people should rely on more than one party lines talking head to form their final opinion.......do their own research, multiple sources,give it some serious thought,be open minded,form opinion.......ah the good old days.
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Exactly the reason people should rely on more than one party lines talking head to form their final opinion.......do their own research, multiple sources,give it some serious thought,be open minded,form opinion.......ah the good old days.Originally posted by Pennsboro32 View PostWelcome to the world of social media where nobody fact checks anything. They hear something so it has to be true, then they run to facebook to post it.
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Welcome to the world of social media where nobody fact checks anything. They hear something so it has to be true, then they run to facebook to post it.Originally posted by tsand View PostThe flag controversy at Cherokee is a prime example of a false story getting passed around while the real explanation is ignored. The Confederate flag was removed several weeks ago not on the demand of lucas oil. When Cherokee had the pay per view super race last month the flag was blocking the camera view. So cherokee took down and promoter Scott Childress said the flag was several years old and faded and torn. So he decided to replace it with a new one but he was busy and it was on the list of things to do but he didn't get around to doing it. Its funny how people make up stories instead of asking questions and finding out the real reason.
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