Larson

[weatherman85]

Drivers are considered employees only to their teams. When it comes to sponsors, it's a general contractor type situation but generally depends on the wording of a contract. Usually in a sponsorship deal you're representing a brand/company, not directly working for them. Like I said in another post. When you sign these contracts you're basically signing your life away but it is for Millions of dollars so you have to weigh that out. It's easy to look over some of the fine print when you're focusing on all those dollar signs. Kind of like when football teams put in their contract that a player is not allowed to ride a motorcycle or do any other activities that could be considered a higher risk of injury.

[Tireguy17]

Im hoping I get to see him behind the weel of a sprint car and late model at Cedar Lake in 2 weeks

[NeedforLMspeed]

There is a very good chance that Kyle will race a dirt late model at some point.

He would bring a tremendous amount of interest to late models outside of their niche' fan following given that he's as close to a household name as there is racing on dirt and is solidly in the argument of being the best all around driver in the world today. His resume' indisputably proves that.

Kyle is in the absolute prime of his driving career right now. And besides all of that, he's widely known to be a good kid and generally drives people clean.

He'll be going for 7 in row tonight driving a USAC Midget at Gas City, Indiana! 3 in a row with the All Stars, 2 in a row with the WoO's and last night in a USAC Midget at Paragon, Indiana.

So was he past his prime in NASCAR or did he just suck @ss.

Asking for a friend...

[Josh Bayko]

So was he past his prime in NASCAR or did he just suck @ss.

Asking for a friend...

I’d say he didn’t suck enough @ss in NASCAR...

[Dlmfan123]

From the way Kensenth has been running it looks like he was over performing

[Rajflyboy]

Drivers are considered employees only to their teams. When it comes to sponsors, it's a general contractor type situation but generally depends on the wording of a contract. Usually in a sponsorship deal you're representing a brand/company, not directly working for them. Like I said in another post. When you sign these contracts you're basically signing your life away but it is for Millions of dollars so you have to weigh that out. It's easy to look over some of the fine print when you're focusing on all those dollar signs. Kind of like when football teams put in their contract that a player is not allowed to ride a motorcycle or do any other activities that could be considered a higher risk of injury.

Thanks for the info on the contracts. Devil is always in the details.

[Rajflyboy]

Larson just needed to get the mental side of a LONG race figured out

[CIRF]

You make a good point, Josh.

It's common knowledge and universally accepted in regards to NASCAR that the car and the team is proportionately more important to success, or lack thereof, than the driver. Jimmie Johnson is a 7 time Cup Champion and arguably the best driver in history and definitely the best driver since Richard Petty was in his prime and it's very doubtful that he could have won even 1 championship with the caliber of team and equipment Larson drove. Larson probably won several Cup races that many other drivers would not have been capable of winning with comparable equipment and team. That's not provable but many who are far more learned than I believe that.

If there is an active driver who has won as many high profile races on as many diverse track surfaces and configurations in as many different types of cars I'm not aware of him or her. Maybe someone here can come up with a name but I can't. On dirt Yung Muny is without peer.

[NeedforLMspeed]

So if he has this great talent isn't he suppose to make something out of nothing? Won several races? He's won 6. 2 at the same track. And 1 other was at the "sister" track of the other.

Being in "lesser" equipment is just an excuse.

[reddyfreddy]

So if he has this great talent isn't he suppose to make something out of nothing? Won several races? He's won 6. 2 at the same track. And 1 other was at the "sister" track of the other.

Being in "lesser" equipment is just an excuse.

So your saying the best driver can jump in any car and win? Surely your not serious.

[NeedforLMspeed]

So your saying the best driver can jump in any car and win? Surely your not serious.

It's not totally impossible.

[CIRF]

So if he has this great talent isn't he suppose to make something out of nothing? Won several races? He's won 6. 2 at the same track. And 1 other was at the "sister" track of the other.

Being in "lesser" equipment is just an excuse.

You can play all the childish games with semantics you want but the facts are what they are whether you can allow yourself to accept them or not. The facts are that Larson is one of the best all around drivers in the world today. His resume' more that supports that claim. He's won races in virtually everything he's ever driven and that includes Cup races. If Larson took driving a dirt late model seriously he'd win big in those, too! Larson doesn't need excuses from me or anyone else.

Me thinks we might be witnessing some dirt late model envy because NO ONE that has come from the generic dirt late model ranks can come anywhere close to what Larson has accomplished in so many different types of cars. There have been those who have tried but failed to make the grade. If that pisses you off, good. It was meant to! LOL!

[Zonks32x]

Kyle Larsen will be back in Nascar in '21 or '22 behind the wheel of a Tony Stewart owned car.

The kid made a mistake, everyone loves a comeback story, and TS don't give a $#!@ about what anyone thinks.

It's not like Nascar is any position to say "NO" to bringing back an Asian-Amercan driver. They'll put up token resistance, have a presser, and release a kumbaya love each other, we're the example of forgiveness statement, and wind up being the "good guys."

[Jking24]

Kyle Larsen will be back in Nascar in '21 or '22 behind the wheel of a Tony Stewart owned car.The kid made a mistake, everyone loves a comeback story, and TS don't give a $#!@ about what anyone thinks. It's not like Nascar is any position to say "NO" to bringing back an Asian-Amercan driver. They'll put up token resistance, have a presser, and release a kumbaya love each other, we're the example of forgiveness statement, and wind up being the "good guys."

I'm not a nascar fan at all but Nascar did not ban or fire larson they only reprimanded him and he did what they asked. So him and nascar are square. He is only out of nascar because his sponsors dropped him their for ganassi had to fire him its unfortunate but nascar and ganassi did nothing wrong or excessive in this situation

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You can play all the childish games with semantics you want but the facts are what they are whether you can allow yourself to accept them or not. The facts are that Larson is one of the best all around drivers in the world today. His resume' more that supports that claim. He's won races in virtually everything he's ever driven and that includes Cup races. If Larson took driving a dirt late model seriously he'd win big in those, too! Larson doesn't need excuses from me or anyone else.

Me thinks we might be witnessing some dirt late model envy because NO ONE that has come from the generic dirt late model ranks can come anywhere close to what Larson has accomplished in so many different types of cars. There have been those who have tried but failed to make the grade. If that pisses you off, good. It was meant to! LOL!

Generic latemodels, as you call them, have no career path to future greatness. So, of course, no one moves on to greatness. It's a much easier path in the open wheel world. Late models are only a decade removed from the everyman's race car.

A wealthy family with a talented youngster would be stupid to put him in a dlm.