Woo i can solve the droop rule problems and dq,s....

[crownman25]

Its called a solid chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bolted to frame and to the axle...….

[Rajflyboy]

Nice idea 👍

[TurboTurtle17]

haha thats funny cause that has been around for qutie some time now, the whole chain thing. only thing that does is basicaily limit your roll steer for certain track conditions

[nc mudcat]

And WoO has no droop rule problems. Some of the teams do, but not WoO.

[ImCryn2]

haha thats funny cause that has been around for qutie some time now, the whole chain thing. only thing that does is basicaily limit your roll steer for certain track conditions

by limiting droop.

I'm with the OP, get rid of all the 'gadgets' that keep causing the DQ's and allow only a chain to limit the travel.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

by limiting droop.

I'm with the OP, get rid of all the 'gadgets' that keep causing the DQ's and allow only a chain to limit the travel.

How about we let them do what works? Rein the bodies in. Race.

[ImCryn2]

How about we let them do what works? Rein the bodies in. Race.

I can't say that I disagree.
I just struggle to understand making a rule to 'limit' the movement of the car and then allow 'gadgets' that counteract the rule. A simple chain would do what they say they are trying to accomplish.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I can't say that I disagree.
I just struggle to understand making a rule to 'limit' the movement of the car and then allow 'gadgets' that counteract the rule. A simple chain would do what they say they are trying to accomplish.

Yeah, it would. The best thing that ever happened to ump mods was taking the spoiler off. They race so much better than dlm do

[dirtcrazy4u]

^^^^^MastersBuilt gets it. Simple fix. Cut the ears off the front and reduce that rear spoiler to a wicker bill. Let the crying begin. Less motor, less tire and shock costs, nobody has the stones to do it because it would make things to dang easy. You could toss the ray cook limiter out the window.

[Josh Bayko]

Yeah, it would. The best thing that ever happened to ump mods was taking the spoiler off. They race so much better than dlm do

I think just making the bodies straight and symmetrical would be just as effective.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I think just making the bodies straight and symmetrical would be just as effective.

Its a start. We have gradually got to where we are. It started with the store-bought roofs and the noses with a splitter. Then we stopped teching body dimensions at all. Now we have POS racing where a guy can't pass because his nose loses aero load. He chases his nose up the track when he tries to pass under a car in the corner. Watching a Lucas race, at a track with any speed, is almost angering at this point.

Instead of fixing this, the national series are too busy making new stupid rules to mechanically limit what is happening under the car, to use these bodies. The top series are more worried about outsiders building a better mousetrap (piles of restrictive rules), than they are about fixing the racing in their series.

[Jking24]

Its a start. We have gradually got to where we are. It started with the store-bought roofs and the noses with a splitter. Then we stopped teching body dimensions at all. Now we have POS racing where a guy can't pass because his nose loses aero load. He chases his nose up the track when he tries to pass under a car in the corner. Watching a Lucas race, at a track with any speed, is almost angering at this point.Instead of fixing this, the national series are too busy making new stupid rules to mechanically limit what is happening under the car, to use these bodies. The top series are more worried about outsiders building a better mousetrap (piles of restrictive rules), than they are about fixing the racing in their series.

Agreed all they realy need to do is get a copy of ump or lucas rules from around 2008 change it to 2021 copy and distribute. Then and this is the kicker enforce them. I remember people being in line for hours trying to get through tech at Eldora. That's what started all the special designs and wraps it was all because the car was getting a new body anyway to ensure it was legal

[hardracer32]

I agree with you both Josh Bayko and MasterSbilt_Raer....get the bodies in check and that will solve a bunch of the BS that's going on right now. I watched a race on MAVTv the other night and there was a dude that had his body so jacked up it looked completely stupid! It was so scewed and warped that it was a distraction to watch. I can't remember his name but I remember reading about him on DoD. He built the whole car. He ran good so good for him but shame on the power players in our sport for letting things get to this point. Yes, I do believe they still need a droop rule to help take some of the aero out of the equation but I would be tickled to death if they would just get the bodies under control and get the right front wheel back under the car where it belongs. They're sticking so far out now they might as well be open wheel modifieds. It's ridiculous.

[nc mudcat]

I assume you are talking about Austin Kirkpatrick. His car looks stupid just like all the rest. I personally don't see where it is much different than the others. Time to fix the bodies for sure.

[crownman25]

My idea is based on the past week when some of the woo guys had the rubber bisquits break and fall out causing them to get dq and The bolt size probb.IT WOULD BE HARD TO HAVE ALL THAT HAPPEN IT THE RULES STAT CHAIN SIZE BOLT SIZE AND MAKING IT HOOK TO THE FRAME AND HOUSING NO GADGETS IN BETWEEN...