Fastest Track In US

[sozo]

Yep, many wheels broke there and not just the off brand wheels stuff but standard XL welds. Many switched to the HS welds for the RR. IIRC, Weld was cleaned out of the HS wheels and bought down everyone they had in stock. I remember Greg Weld talking about it and said the track was too fast for the wheels even the HS wheels

Billetbirdcage is one of the reasons Bellville is so inactive because of it's Ability to eat LM engines?

[jog49]

[QUOTE=bb14;2334690]I asked Bill Schlieper how fast they were really running and he told
me that by multiplying the gear ratio and rpm in some formula = 175 at Golden Isles.

I was there when Skip Arp ran like a 15.65 or something close. The announcer said 144 mph.



Thanks for verifying what I had thought to be correct about Skip Arp. An average spped of 144 would be about right at Golden Isles with speed of 173 entering turn 3, I suppose. Skip hung around with some of my camping friends down there and once told that he was going so fast, the wind was rushing under his face shield and making his upper lip curl up and block his nostrils where he couldn't breathe. LOL!

I also remember hearing the story about several well known drivers complaining about the straightaway speeds at old Cherokee and having to navigate its tight turns after coming in so fast.

[3 wide]

Well if you go by times tazwell is one of the fastest when John Thompson owned it I think the track record was 10.8 so is bulls gap of course we have a new track at spring city high banked quarter mile crates turned it in 11. Seconds they haven't ran a super race yet it's like this if race tracks are worked and watered they are all fast.

[jhanson]

Once again, folks, we seem to be forgetting Cedar Lake 10.775 seconds by Terry McCarl ---average of 125.29 MPH
---all the more remarkable considering four corners in the average--- three-eighths track ---imagine the G force

[3 wide]

That is sprint car not late models.

[billetbirdcage]

Billetbirdcage is one of the reasons Bellville is so inactive because of it's Ability to eat LM engines?

It's a combination of things mostly, but yes many guys skipped that track if they wasn't running for points due to engine strain. The speed is very consistent all the way around the track, you might scrub 5 or 8 MPH off in either end of the track so the RPM is pretty much at max for the duration of the race. If the engine has a weak link it will find it. Other factors are a lack of open cars or LM's in general now a days and before that was Boen having purpose built cars/engine just for Belleville as he was almost unbeatable there after 2004ish. I think one year (2003 or 2004) Purkey and I did win 3 of the 4 races there, but that was because Kelly had issues or just missed it on 3 of those 4 races. I don't think Kelly lost a race there after that.

It's hard on all engines, even many of the open modifieds stopped going.

[sozo]

It's a combination of things mostly, but yes many guys skipped that track if they wasn't running for points due to engine strain. The speed is very consistent all the way around the track, you might scrub 5 or 8 MPH off in either end of the track so the RPM is pretty much at max for the duration of the race. If the engine has a weak link it will find it. Other factors are a lack of open cars or LM's in general now a days and before that was Boen having purpose built cars/engine just for Belleville as he was almost unbeatable there after 2004ish. I think one year (2003 or 2004) Purkey and I did win 3 of the 4 races there, but that was because Kelly had issues or just missed it on 3 of those 4 races. I don't think Kelly lost a race there after that.

It's hard on all engines, even many of the open modifieds stopped going.

Thanks. I miss watching Al run!

[Buford.Justice]

Well if you go by times tazwell is one of the fastest when John Thompson owned it I think the track record was 10.8 so is bulls gap of course we have a new track at spring city high banked quarter mile crates turned it in 11. Seconds they haven't ran a super race yet it's like this if race tracks are worked and watered they are all fast.

Thompson made the track pretty tacky most of the time. They have gotten away from doing that anymore it seems.

[jhanson]

Jason Rauen 12.972 at Cedar Lake AVERAGE of 104.07 MPH I think hard core facts are the best way to figure out fast tracks. As one person said, tracks tend to advertise things that may not be true. Some might measure their track on the outside fence and some on the inside or some in the middle. I don't know where Cedar Lake measures theirs. The owners of Bristol got angry at me because I measured their banking with a magnetic protractor and found out the banking was less than advertised. ---ha ha ha Now granted, it is still very steep. I felt it in my thighs. Don't ask the degrees right now. I have it buried in a drawer.

[BURKS73B1SB0FAN]

Volunteer Speedway, Bulls Gap, TN 4/10 mile
Super Late Models - Vic Hill 11.860 - 121.42 mph
Run-What-You-Brung Super Late Models (Sideboards/Wings/Outlaw) - Gusty Christenberry 11.743 - 122.63 mph
WOO Sprint Cars - Kasey Kahne 10.258 - 140.38 mph

Tazewell Speedway, Tazewell, TN 1/3 mile
Super Late Models - Scott Bloomquist 10.822 - 110.77 mph

Just two tracks in my area

[BURKS73B1SB0FAN]

Another fast track was Bristol. The open practice for the super late models and sprints they had before the very first race, I clocked the super late models running in the 125 mph range and the sprints in the 145 mph average lap. It had rained on and off that day of practice and another shower came just before they went out to practice. The Drivers were Scott Bloomquist and Sammy Swindell.

[BURKS73B1SB0FAN]

There is video of Daley Blaney turning laps at Wythe Raceway, Wythville, VA 1/2 mile track in the 13 second range at 140 mph in a closed practice filmed by Perry Brown

https://youtu.be/j0coCioCU3s

[jhanson]

I've watched a good race at Volunteer. The stats sound right. I've measured the banking at Tazewell (steep) but not the distance. I doubt it is a third mile. It seemed quite small. I have never been to Macon which has been stated to be one-fourth or one-fifth mile---anyway, they say they are the world's fastest for their size. (someday when I'm not doing projects I may dig my measurements out of a drawer---I'm retired and don't know how I ever had time to work--ha ha)

[jhanson]

Of course, the other factor is a track being racey. Is their a rim-rider, a middle groove, and a bottom feeder ? Can a driver run in all three grooves depending on his car, changing track conditions, and negotiating traffic. Personally I like tacky, hammer down tracks as long as there is good racing. It is especially fun if a driver can come from deep in the field to the front. Sometimes drivers whine that the track itself is difficult to drive--competition from both the track and other drivers, which is beautiful to me, the fan. ---ha ha ha Of course, I'm not fond of holes.

[AllenK]

There is video of Daley Blaney turning laps at Wythe Raceway, Wythville, VA 1/2 mile track in the 13 second range at 140 mph in a closed practice filmed by Perry Brown

https://youtu.be/j0coCioCU3s

Here's another angle. He was rolling.

https://youtu.be/Y5ZvFJlny2o