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  • Stefan2k20
    Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 75

    #16
    Variety is important. In my opinion, part of the decline of Nascar may have been related to too many cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks. Having a variety of different track configurations keeps things interesting and gives individual tracks their own character. Why should people come to watch a race at your racetrack when it's no different from all the others? Anyway, I think it's a great idea!

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    • EvelB7
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 907

      #17
      Personally hope they bring it back for special events. Place would change drastically throughout the program, fun to adapt and change the car to keep up with it; felt like running Daytona when we ran crates there.

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      • Josh Bayko
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 8757

        #18
        Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
        You all sound like broken records, too big skip, too big skip, too big. Obviously you've never been to Port Royal which is smack dab in the middle of sprint territory and has become the late model destination for most of the cars in Pa.
        It’s quite a bit bigger than Port Royal even.
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        • TerryM
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 3902

          #19
          I haven’t been to Port Royal, but I’ve watched a bunch of Port Royal shows on Flo Racing. It’s nothing at all like WVMS. Believe me, I want all tracks to succeed. For three years back in the 90’s, I lived 15 minutes from WVMS. Went there many many times, and several times since then too. The facility is absolutely beautiful. I love everything about the place — except the 5/8 mile track. Yes, there has occasionally been a good race there, but it’s usually an attrition show. All I know is, most drivers don’t like it and won’t regularly support it. Now if the plan is to only have a few special events, that might work. But if they want to draw 50-60 cars, it’ll take a huge purse. I really hope it works out. For anyone who hasn’t been there, I highly recommend making the trip. Just to see the place. When it’s been completely cleaned up and manicured, there aren’t many more beautiful natural settings for a race track.

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14324

            #20
            Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
            You all sound like broken records, too big skip, too big skip, too big. Obviously you've never been to Port Royal which is smack dab in the middle of sprint territory and has become the late model destination for most of the cars in Pa.
            1) how many times has Port Royal closed?
            2) are they even the same size?
            3) the demographics of pennsylvania and wv lm racing are quite different.
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            • NeedforLMspeed
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2019
              • 1905

              #21
              Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
              Obviously you've never been to Port Royal which is smack dab in the middle of sprint territory and has become the late model destination for most of the cars in Pa.
              Helps when they pay good. Looks like between $3k and $5k when they are scheduled with the exception of the Lucas race
              2020 race count:
              1/2 of an event

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              • bleedblue55
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1880

                #22
                Skip, Skip, Skip, Skip, Scrape

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                • chupp n bloomer fan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 11526

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                  1) how many times has Port Royal closed?
                  2) are they even the same size?
                  3) the demographics of pennsylvania and wv lm racing are quite different.
                  You and Terry are correct. And I loved the place. The seating is the best period. Racing not too bad, but apparently some have Alzheimer’s.

                  The last DTWC there had I believe 49 cars.

                  The reconfigured track was not well thought out. Terrible shape for a track. They can try the 5/8, I just remember the decline as the prices went up, there counts went south real quick. And Ohio Valley and Tyler County are nothing like WVMS. Port Royal may be close, never been there, but only comparison I have is PMS with more banking.

                  I like WVMS and would love to go back, he!!, I’d love to go back to Pennsboro, just gotta think of an areas financial situation, the track itself, etc.

                  I hope they pull it off and I’d like to go back, but I would shorten it too. Just a better shape.
                  Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                  • bleedblue55
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1880

                    #24
                    Who said Ohio Valley and Tyler were like WVMS? I said the same people doing WVMS already run OVS and Tyler on Fri and Sat every week and WVMS would likely be a special events venue. Argument for arguments sake and like it or not car counts went down across the board when all the special events went with a sanction. The car counts at Eldora would drop some if they WOO sanctioned instead of UMP and handed out provisionals.

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                    • Pennsboro32
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 3440

                      #25
                      Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
                      Who said Ohio Valley and Tyler were like WVMS? I said the same people doing WVMS already run OVS and Tyler on Fri and Sat every week and WVMS would likely be a special events venue. Argument for arguments sake and like it or not car counts went down across the board when all the special events went with a sanction. The car counts at Eldora would drop some if they WOO sanctioned instead of UMP and handed out provisionals.
                      Like someone mentioned before, the Mid Ohio valley doesn’t have enough late models regionally that will support big shows at WVMS unfortunately. I hope I’m wrong, but you’re most likely not going to see locals or regional guys like the Carpenters, Garnes, Burdette and others at WVMS. There’s too much risk for them to run there which drastically lowers car counts for WoO or Lucas races.

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                      • chupp n bloomer fan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 11526

                        #26
                        Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
                        Who said Ohio Valley and Tyler were like WVMS? I said the same people doing WVMS already run OVS and Tyler on Fri and Sat every week and WVMS would likely be a special events venue. Argument for arguments sake and like it or not car counts went down across the board when all the special events went with a sanction. The car counts at Eldora would drop some if they WOO sanctioned instead of UMP and handed out provisionals.
                        No one did sweetheart. But they are both smaller tracks that still get a decent draw and aren’t as hard on cars. WVMS is none of them things, why they shortened it. They didn’t think it out, but they were on the right track. I loved WVMS, went quite a bit. I don’t think it’ll make it as a 5/8. Maybe tweak it to a 4/10 or something with a good shape, I dunno. As a 5/8 it’s a lost cause to me.

                        They do hand out provisionals at Eldora. And car counts aren’t dropping at Eldora over who sanctions it. WVMS in no way can be compared to Eldora. Not at all.
                        Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                        • zyoung25
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 8960

                          #27
                          CnB, where you been? I was starting to think you got the huck treatment.

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                          • Buford.Justice
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2020
                            • 4981

                            #28
                            Nothing wrong with them going back to 5/8 if it's a special events track. Very little different than a half miler and many of them have of lot of success.

                            You have to set the car up accordingly for every size track. Gear up!!
                            Last edited by Buford.Justice; 09-17-2020, 03:46 PM.
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                            • Krooser
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 3117

                              #29
                              Saw one race there in the 70's...wow!
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                              • dirtcrazy4u
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 3212

                                #30
                                To big, 5/8. To fast, hard on equipment. Never going to survive as a weekly or bi weekly track. Only thing I could see is a handful of bigger purse races. Securing woo or lucas is another big issue because with out a touring series it's not going to happen.

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