Richmond (Lupinos) vs Lake Cumberland/Ponderosa (Hardgrove)

[noitall93w]

He runs the Ultimate series

[LM1M]

Why don't these tracks act like adults and work together? There aren't going to be enough fans to go around and everyone is going to lose on this deal.

[Boatdock]

The original schedule for Lake Cumberland had them running a regular show for all classes except Modifieds and it was a Iron Man Modifieds Show. Ponderosa had nothing scheduled. They came up with this idea a couple weeks ago and tried to say it was on the schedule from last year. That is a complete LIE. Tilley & him are cousins. They did this purposely. Richmond cancelled their shows 2 times for their big show. Once for the original date and again when they rescheduled. I feel like one problem is Larry Yantz and family were running Richmond Raceway when the Lupinos bought it. Larry now prepares the track at Ponderosa and are friends with them. There is some bad blood there somewhere. I have frequented all 3 tracks but I will not be back to Ponderosa or Lake Cumberland after this move. This was right out dirty business. I was at Lake Cumberland probably 15-20 years ago for a 3K race and in pulls Don O’Neal, Lannigan, Josh Tarter and quite a few other big names and they all proceed to turn around and leave, I am confused and I ask Mr. Hargrove why they were leaving and he said that he had to cut the purse and they were mad and wasn’t going to run. I asked him if he had cut the purse was he going to give me back some money on admission that I had paid to see a 3K Race. He then proceeds to tell me hell no and if I didnt like it I could leave. I did just that. I told him to take my money and stick it where the sun don’t shine and that I would never be back. I never returned to the track until last year. I thought you know he can’t help what happened between me and his dad so I gave it another shot but after this stunt he has pulled I will boycott any track he has anything to do with. I have been going to races for 45 years and thought I had seen it all but this is a sorry way to operate.

[bleedsbluer2]

Same here I live 15 minutes from ponderosa been there only 1 time last few years just for the lucas shows havnt been LCD for at least 10 years and used to go richmond once a year for the butterball said I wouldn't be back there cause its usually a train around the bottom but I guess I have to now just to support them after this bold move it's sad when you live in central ky and call florence or brownstown your local tracks because of crappy things like this that make you avoid giving them your buisiness

[t3r3e3]

Burnside and Richmond have the same problem. Namely, they’re way too narrow in the corners, and too narrow in general. The best thing that could happen to both would be some reconfiguration work. Both tracks produce boring racing more often than not.

[3 wide]

Well I have never been to Richmond however I thought it sold cheap but I have been to ponderosa an lake Cumberland ponderosa needs some serious upgrading from fences to grandstands and everything else the night I was there the grandstands were packed I'm thinking why don't they build more stands lake Cumberland is better but to narrow.

[Wells Racing Photos]

What is the issue with the grandstands at Ponderosa? The entire frontstretch grandstands are slabbed concrete with plenty of room?

[3 wide]

I must have been at the wrong ponderosa.

[18fan]

Not to mention, it was announced last night, that Richmond is going to run a $10,000 to win race on top of the Fall 50 at Florence, which has been ran on the last weekend of October for as long as I can remember. What a shame.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Not to mention, it was announced last night, that Richmond is going to run a $10,000 to win race on top of the Fall 50 at Florence, which has been ran on the last weekend of October for as long as I can remember. What a shame.

Richmond is just an innocent victim. Lol

[Rayburn Swartz Jr.]

LC is boring. Ponderosa produces the best of the three in my opinion. Richmond has ups and downs, depends on the weather seems like. My understanding is Yantz pulls the strings at LC and the Pond because he owns the purse strings. He’s as crooked as they come.

[MRM]

Ok, the scheduling was not ideal for this past weekend. But it seems both groups had good weekends with attendance and car counts. Richmond was packed and had a pretty good race after they took some time to fix the track on both ends. I heard Ponderosa and Lake Cumberland had pretty good crowds as well.

[Paradox28]

Not to mention, it was announced last night, that Richmond is going to run a $10,000 to win race on top of the Fall 50 at Florence, which has been ran on the last weekend of October for as long as I can remember. What a shame.

As quickly as the race for Richmond came together, they took a look at the national schedule on DoD and didn't see Florence's race listed. The owners have since changed the date to not run over the Fall 50..how it should be done.