DTWC Support Classes

[zer018]

Carl does give the DTWC winner an extra $50k for basically no gain.

He’s a business man and Carl isn’t “giving” anything to anyone. He’s not doing this out of the goodness of his heart, just like any other promoter out there. It comes down to being in the black. I don’t fault him or the others trying to maximize their profit, but that is the answer to the original post.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Steel block lives matter!

The mod heats are Gawd awful. They do have a good feature.

I consider the hillbilly and the dtwc to be ohio valley events. And SB lates are a big part of the Ohio valley race scene.

I do agree on the steel blocks being popular in our region. And Carl has ran specials for them for a long time. My Dad went to Pennsboro in the early 80’s and was second in one of the Hillbilly specials for semi lates.

The DTWC’s I’ve attended, always like the mods. The whole deal. Except the year they pill drawed 105 and you had guys on the front row who were just out to lunch. Just so much slower than the field. And it caused some wrecks. I’ll always remember the guy from Oklahoma in a number 12 had to start in the back. Drove his tail off, just didn’t make it. They were stacked heats with 12 or more cars.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Couldn't agree more (steel block lives matter). I think people on here just like to wine. I was their last year thought it was fine. I prefer the dual heat format. The only saving grace for the standard lucas format is the race is 100 laps wich makes starting position far less important. Most of their sub 50 lap races suck lately and i blame the heads up format.

They make like wine too, but I think you are referring to whine. Enjoy the mods and I understand why they added steel blocks with the super counts being down. The mod counts are down roughly 20 from a few years ago, and lates are down 20 plus from a few years ago. But it doesn’t help you had other two day regional shows that kept some closer to home than coming to PRP, at least as far as supers are concerned.

My only thing is PRP is notorious for multiple day shows of locking down. Just freight train on the bottom, don’t get outta line. Stay in the rubber. So you aren’t benefiting anyone long term if that happens continuously. Though it looked pretty dang good last night.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Carl gives the extra $50k. It adds nothing to car count. I stand by the comment.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Carl gives the extra $50k. It adds nothing to car count. I stand by the comment.

And I at least agree 100%

[zer018]

Carl gives the extra $50k. It adds nothing to car count. I stand by the comment.

The Rhino Ag Optima Batteries DTWC presented by Carl Short. I’m fairly certain Carl isn’t the only one that deserves all the credit.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

It's Carl's event. Sure he has sponsors. They were quite a different group of sponsors when Charlie Swartz won in 1980.

[zer018]

It's Carl's event. Sure he has sponsors. They were quite a different group of sponsors when Charlie Swartz won in 1980.

I’m pretty sure there wasn’t a DTWC in 1980 and The inaugural wasn’t won by Swartz.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You are right, Dunn won the first, everyone knows that. Swartz won in 82. It does nothing for your point, however.

[CILDirt]

I see the track prep class is back tonight at PRP. They should be embarrassed for themselves. I would be furious if I had to sit there and watch this mess. If you are going to work it at least put the blade down on the one grader that is on the track.

[zer018]

You are right, Dunn won the first, everyone knows that. Swartz won in 82. It does nothing for your point, however.

I responded to the fact that you claimed that Carl had sponsors in 1980 when Charlie Swartz won. You said “everyone knows that” about Jim Dunn winning the first yet you did not. My point is Carl and every other business man is not going to be “giving” money to anyone regardless of sponsorship money or not without expecting a positive return. Your point reflects the joke Earl used to say “If I would have sold one more hot dog I would have broke even.” It seems as if you believe that.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I knew Dunn won the first. I used Charlie as an example of a year, because he is one of my favorites. He won the World that year, not the dtwc, as it didn't exist yet. My bad, I got mixed up. It appears you believe this race is different, and Carl in some way benefits, when it pays 100k instead of 50k. It is not. They gain not one car, nor 1 fan with the extra $50k. In making this decision on pay, it is a charitable contribution.

I have no idea what Earl's joke has to do with this conversation...

[dirtcrazy4u]

Yea and big Jim Dunn started LAST and won. O never any passing at pennsboro was the cry. Sure the cars were a lot different but this race has always drawn the cars and the fans I don't care were Carl has had it