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  • Buford.Justice
    Senior Member
    • May 2020
    • 4981

    #76
    Buying the Show Me and then moving it to a larger facility and then cutting the purse was just not right.
    If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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    • TeNfOMaFiA69
      Banned
      • Oct 2012
      • 587

      #77
      Originally posted by Hoosier_Dirt View Post
      The DTWC has rarely had good races. When it was at Pennsboro it was normally junk, Bardstown was no good. Probably the best one I saw was at Lawrenceburg, and it wasn't all that great. This might have been the longest 2 day show I've ever witnessed with all the downtime, track prep etc. New to move the show along.

      I agree with you except for a few DTWC's... the one Babb won at Bardstown was fantastic, and the one he won at Atomic (KC Raceway) was top 5 race Ive ever seen... Babb and Bloomquist were side by side at war for the last 45 laps.... it was outstanding.... both races had TONS of rain for days and days prior to the race... non of the PRP races have been worth a crap.... Pennsboro was Pennsboro...

      We are all crying on deaf ears... Carl Short doesn't give a crap about the fans... he never has and he never will. He only cares about how fat his wallet gets... he is the only promotor to charge full weekend price if you show up Thursday, Friday, or Saturday... If you are a working individual and can just get there for Saturday's portion, you pay what everyone paid on Friday... he doesn't change the price, and that is a (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) joke!!!!!!
      Last edited by TeNfOMaFiA69; 10-19-2020, 10:10 AM.

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      • TeNfOMaFiA69
        Banned
        • Oct 2012
        • 587

        #78
        Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
        Buying the Show Me and then moving it to a larger facility and then cutting the purse was just not right.
        couldn't agree more... one of the biggest downfalls of Our sport in my opinion

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        • Mod Runner
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 723

          #79
          From what I read , the DTWC was quite an exciting race until Rocket Shepp got the lead. Rocket Shepp did not start on the front row and had to race hard to get the lead. Once a driver put on a drive like that , you like to see him take the win knowing that a cut tire or a broken part could take him out. Ricky Thornton Jr dogged him until the end. The race was far from boring to me. With the current aerodynamics of the SLM race cars it is hard to keep a track wet for 100 laps. The air blown on the track from the aerodynamics of the race cars really dry out a track after 50 or 60 laps. Still, 100 laps races are fun because of the uncertainty of all cars completing 100 laps.

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          • Rajflyboy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 5907

            #80
            I like the 100 lap races

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            • 0_VodooChild_0
              Banned
              • Dec 2019
              • 204

              #81
              Seems odd to me that Tyler Erb advanced 17 spots, Brandon Sheppard advanced 10 spots, Stormy Scott advanced 18 spots, Davenport / Feger advaced 14 spots, Clanton / Broson moved up 12 spots, How the heck was it a bad race. You people crying are the reason for death of the sport you say you love. Not every race is going to be perfect for every fan BUT just to be able to have racing is huge especially in 2020.if you want to critique a race .....fine but please stop trying to kill the sport.............Of all the people crying about the DTWC, HOW MANY ACTUALLY ATTENDED IN PERSON VS WATCHING IT STREAMING??????
              Last edited by 0_VodooChild_0; 10-19-2020, 06:51 AM.

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              • non driving fool
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 221

                #82
                Originally posted by 0_VodooChild_0 View Post
                Seems odd to me that Tyler Erb advanced 17 spots, Brandon Sheppard advanced 10 spots, Stormy Scott advanced 18 spots, Davenport / Feger advaced 14 spots, Clanton / Broson moved up 12 spots, How the heck was it a bad race. You people crying are the reason for death of the sport you say you love. Not every race is going to be perfect for every fan BUT just to be able to have racing is huge especially in 2020.if you want to critique a race .....fine but please stop trying to kill the sport.............Of all the people crying about the DTWC, HOW MANY ACTUALLY ATTENDED IN PERSON VS WATCHING IT STREAMING??????
                I was there ! We camped all weekend and had a great time. Some people want to act like the last 25 laps of a feature define the whole thing---THE WHOLE WEEKEND IS RUINED !!!!!!The ones on here bitching are the same people that bitch all the time about everything!See big fat ernie as a prime example!

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                • Pennsboro32
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 3440

                  #83
                  You guys were obviously drunk above....

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                  • foxfire2dirtracing
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2309

                    #84
                    I was there Friday & Saturday as usual. 285 mile drive (1way)- 2 nights at motel- 4 tickets. Not terribly disappointed- but about what I expected for the last 40 laps. Good car count- large crowd- good racing atmosphere. What was surprising was the amount of people who kept their mask on. Unlike Port Royal where we were made fun of for wearing them. No- the track wasn’t perfect the entire 100 laps but it was a 100 lap race that happened in 2020 the year Eldora locked us out.
                    We don’t live in a perfect world & I try to look at my glass as half full instead of half empty- the steak at Ribbers was awesome with no complaints of the 30 minute wait at 11:30 on Saturday morning! Yes- the track could have been better- but I will be back next year to experience the DTWC live and in person instead of criticizing from watching off site.

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                    • foxfire2dirtracing
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2309

                      #85
                      Let me add:

                      I agree with many of your frustrations about the last 1/2 of the race (track surface)- But Thursday nights rain didn’t help matters with the large amount of races.
                      Many want the DTWC moved out of Portsmouth- I understand that as well but as I posted at length on another thread- this is an event- not just a race. Support divisions are needed for the revenue needed to pay the purse. The stands need to be large enough to hold a large gathering of fans- a very large spectactor parking lot is needed - a very large pit area is needed- and lastly- an extreme amount of space for camping is a must. Not many tracks can check all these variables off the list. Portsmouth has the facilities to fit the needed requirements. For those that remember: one year when it was held at Atomic- it rained hard on Thursday (modified program) the late model teams had to stay in town at the parking lot at Walmart until the modified teams left the pits. Again- my point is- not many tracks can fulfill the needed infrastructure to hold the DTWC.
                      As for the # of laps: to me if it’s a crown jewel-it should be a 100 laps!

                      My biggest complaint of the weekend: giving Kyle Larson a promotor provisional! Who called that shot- Lucas, Carl Short or Portsmouth owners? He didn’t even finish his heat race and was only racing late models for the 2nd weekend of the year. What about all the other teams that were more deserving? The Conley family-the Carpenter family and all the other local teams that support Portsmouth each and every year. To Me- they got slapped in the face. It reminds me of when the Knoxville Nationals first started with late models- Tony Stewart, Ryan Newman and a couple of others were guaranteed starting spots in the field. I think it was Bloomquist who raised the question as to “why”- let them race their way in like all the rest. I know there were fans who wanted to see Larson compete- but how many went to the race-paid for admission and ect. Just because he was there? Yes-I understand the thinking behind the provisional- just don’t agree with it. For you Nascrap fans- would NASCAR grant a promotor provisional to an Indy car star that failed to make the Daytona 500?

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                      • JimBo
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 812

                        #86
                        Well said Foxfire........

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                        • late model chaser
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 127

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Mod Runner View Post
                          From what I read , the DTWC was quite an exciting race until Rocket Shepp got the lead. Rocket Shepp did not start on the front row and had to race hard to get the lead. Once a driver put on a drive like that , you like to see him take the win knowing that a cut tire or a broken part could take him out. Ricky Thornton Jr dogged him until the end. The race was far from boring to me. With the current aerodynamics of the SLM race cars it is hard to keep a track wet for 100 laps. The air blown on the track from the aerodynamics of the race cars really dry out a track after 50 or 60 laps. Still, 100 laps races are fun because of the uncertainty of all cars completing 100 laps.
                          A lot of the same SLM race cars that were a PRP race at Florence completing a 100 laps and it doesn't dry out!

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14324

                            #88
                            Originally posted by late model chaser View Post
                            A lot of the same SLM race cars that were a PRP race at Florence completing a 100 laps and it doesn't dry out!
                            It's not a wet/dry issue. It's abrasion laying rubber. And, as I've said before, I sent the SB feature video to a very knowledgeable dirt guy. He asked if they reworked the track, cause he heard it was rubbered up. He didn't see it in that race. There was no rework by the track crew.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • NeedforLMspeed
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2019
                              • 1905

                              #89
                              How would the race had been if they ran on that surface Lernerville had Saturday.
                              2020 race count:
                              1/2 of an event

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                              • jhanson
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 362

                                #90
                                I know I sound like a broken record, but I wish you guys could see what Cedar Lake does with a 3-day show capped by a 100 lapper. Every track can miss occasionally but too many tracks miss most of the time (100 lappers, sometimes even 50 lappers)
                                Hanson
                                Minnesota

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