Front left nose?

[50Dixon50]

Left rear is way up in the air i mean like it looks like 6 ft high

[RayCook53fan]

Me personally, I love the ways the cars look now. I love the body lines, and the crooked right side, the whole deal. To me, comparing todays cars/bodies to the way they looked 15 years ago would be like comparing a brand new Mustang shelby GT to a 1996 Mustang GT. Not even close. Like Mark Martin said on twitter a year or 2 back, they are the "sexiest" race cars on the planet.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Me personally, I love the ways the cars look now. I love the body lines, and the crooked right side, the whole deal. To me, comparing todays cars/bodies to the way they looked 15 years ago would be like comparing a brand new Mustang shelby GT to a 1996 Mustang GT. Not even close. Like Mark Martin said on twitter a year or 2 back, they are the "sexiest" race cars on the planet.

Only difference is, real cars change to sell new ones. Race cars are supposed to stay the same, so people know what to build.

[Highside Hustler25]

I watched Terbo drive in circles to the right Saturday night while was Randall standing on the LR corner of the car. The lucas officials stood about 75ft away and watched it all go down. They measured the deck height, and gave him a thumbs up to go on for the lineup.

I'm not pointing the finger at Terbo or Randall either one, they all do it, it's the lack of enforcement from the officials. No way the cars pass tech without them doing what they do. 95% of the time, the officials watch these guys do this.

I witnessed that at every show I attended last year. Totally laughable.

[Highside Hustler25]

Thank you RAYCOOK53FAN. I agree with you & Mark Martin.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Thank you RAYCOOK53FAN. I agree with you & Mark Martin.

You could fix them and a fan in the stands could tell little difference. And guys could fit one in a regular enclosed trailer without disassembly.

[1youngblood]

These are the best looking race cars from late models all the way to street stocks. None of them look like daily drivers anymore. It’s not like it’s nascar in the 80s when your daily driver looked like what you watched on tv on Sunday. If your building bodies and haven’t noticed the way 99% of everyone else has been making them since 2015 or 16 then maybe you should get another profession.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

He's speaking about smaller details you would fail to see.

They are so far outside the rule book, it's a joke.

[mcarter815]

Only difference is, real cars change to sell new ones. Race cars are supposed to stay the same, so people know what to build.

Since when? Race cars have been continually evolving since the start of racing.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Since when? Race cars have been continually evolving since the start of racing.

In ways the rules don't address, that's natural. Ignoring rules is not.

[mcarter815]

In ways the rules don't address, that's natural. Ignoring rules is not.

That's not really what you said. You said race cars are supposed to stay the same.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

That's not really what you said. You said race cars are supposed to stay the same.

My bad. Rules are supposed to fix key items of the car, so that a guy knows what to build.

How's that?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

My bad. Rules are supposed to fix key items of the car, so that a guy knows what to build.

How's that?

The problem is, when teams quit building key body parts, and aftermarket folks stepped in, all scrutiny was lost.

Rule makers have never back to backed a curved roof and a flat one with 4" of rake, and it shows. When we built our own, that wouldn't get past tech. Now, it's rubber stamped. Same deal with noses. The companies make more and more wedge ones every year to outsell the competition.

[billetbirdcage]

The problem is, when teams quit building key body parts, and aftermarket folks stepped in, all scrutiny was lost.

Rule makers have never back to backed a curved roof and a flat one with 4" of rake, and it shows. When we built our own, that wouldn't get past tech. Now, it's rubber stamped. Same deal with noses. The companies make more and more wedge ones every year to outsell the competition.

And the whole nose pieces deal was to make them look more like regular cars. Back in 95 when the noses became standard (we went from the wedge sheet metal and 6" or so of plastic at bottom to the stock type noses), they were something like $89 or $99 and only consisted of the 2 half's of the nose. Now you have almost 500.00 worth of nose, batwings, and valances and they resemble nothing

Shrugs

[Punisher88]

And the whole nose pieces deal was to make them look more like regular cars. Back in 95 when the noses became standard (we went from the wedge sheet metal and 6" or so of plastic at bottom to the stock type noses), they were something like $89 or $99 and only consisted of the 2 half's of the nose. Now you have almost 500.00 worth of nose, batwings, and valances and they resemble nothingShrugs

Ah come on. I put my cadillac stickers on and I couldn't tell a single difference. Other That a 13 inch difference in ground clearance from one side to the other. Lol