Why do some fans get so upset over the use of provisionals?

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #31
    Originally posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    Without provisionals car counts would drop in touring series and people complaining now about provisionals would be complaining about the drop in car counts.
    I don't really see that as a problem. We are on our way to 30 super LM in the whole country already.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • 84wedge
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2020
      • 2088

      #32
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      I don't really see that as a problem. We are on our way to 30 super LM in the whole country already.
      I laughed at this.

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      • 84wedge
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2020
        • 2088

        #33
        "Crony Capitalism" and "Participation Trophies" have been my favourite description so far. Some cars are just losers and if they want a second chance, well there's another race next week.

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14310

          #34
          Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
          I laughed at this.
          It wasn't a joke. Crates have replaced them all in many parts of the US already.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • CCHIEF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 399

            #35
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
            The fans are the ones that make the big money possible. Forest Lucas isn't showing up with a checkbook.
            "Fans need to conceit to whom is putting the Big money in to HAVE a show" No cars, no show.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14310

              #36
              Originally posted by CCHIEF View Post
              "Fans need to conceit to whom is putting the Big money in to HAVE a show" No cars, no show.
              No fans, no money, no show. Entertainers take what they can get. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it isn't squat. Depends on demand.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • Buford.Justice
                Senior Member
                • May 2020
                • 4981

                #37
                Originally posted by BloomerWon View Post
                You all's upset about people being upset... 
                I'm upset about people being upset about people being upset!!!! hehe
                If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                • NeedforLM$peed
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 1637

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                  The fans are the ones that make the big money possible. Forest Lucas isn't showing up with a checkbook.
                  With the exception of last year's tour restart at East Bay.
                  2021 race count
                  6 events

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                  • 84wedge
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 2088

                    #39
                    Originally posted by slmcrewchief99 View Post
                    Here is my take on this subject. Each of you go out there and fund a team. Regional, National, Summer Nats, makes no difference. Follow the entire schedule from start to finish. Then come back and tell us your opinion on provisionals.
                    And if your team had to qualify out of 300 cars to get into the feature event, how would you feel about provisionals being handed to the tour directors buddy?

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                    • ZERO25
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 5240

                      #40
                      Originally posted by slmcrewchief99 View Post
                      Here is my take on this subject. Each of you go out there and fund a team. Regional, National, Summer Nats, makes no difference. Follow the entire schedule from start to finish. Then come back and tell us your opinion on provisionals.
                      BINGO!^^^^^

                      The only complaint I have is the same guys, nearly every race, getting an Emergency Provisional. They should limit those!

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                      • ZERO25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 5240

                        #41
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        The fans are the ones that make the big money possible. Forest Lucas isn't showing up with a checkbook.
                        Ummmmmm, yes he is. He's subsidized many races in the past year!Fact!

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                        • 84wedge
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 2088

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                          Ummmmmm, yes he is. He's subsidized many races in the past year!Fact!
                          And he's the only reason EPJ gets in every single feature.

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                          • ZERO25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 5240

                            #43
                            Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                            And he's the only reason EPJ gets in every single feature.
                            You really think Forrest made a rule just for his sponsored driver? If he did, he's a terrible businessman(which we know he aint)!

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                            • 84wedge
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2020
                              • 2088

                              #44
                              If they limited the amount of provisionals that could be used, the car with LUCAS plastered on the front would be the first to use them up. The car is a loser and it carries the flagship sponsor for the tour. That's not business, that's nepotism.

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                              • Raceready
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 4737

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Just The Tip View Post
                                That's what tow money is for. Race your way in or load it up.
                                LOL ! That makes sense ? Give a local that drove 10 miles to the track and only brought his immediate family in the stands a prov but not a series regular who just drove 800 miles from the last race and had 200 of his loyal fans follow him here that spent a lot of money in local hotels and businesses the boot ? BTW, The touring driver might have to drive 400 miles overnight to get to the next race. Why would anyone follow any series if there wasn't even any incentive to pay for at least some of his fuel? You would only have 4 drivers that would able to last the whole year if the hadn't hope at all to get in the feature event.
                                Last edited by Raceready; 03-03-2021, 03:57 AM.

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