Brownstown Proves There is a Problem.......

[crownman25]

heres the probb some places some night some tracks the mods and stock cars are sooooo soft in the rf that the right front corner of the frame gouges big holes out..........one other thing what holiday inn did the guy that ran the dozer stay at the night before?i

[crownman25]

rule changes needed no bump stops,no stack springs,no proggressive spings no coil over covers, standard coil over springs lets eliminate all the secret magic and make it easier and alot simpler for everyone!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

rule changes needed no bump stops,no stack springs,no proggressive spings no coil over covers, standard coil over springs lets eliminate all the secret magic and make it easier and alot simpler for everyone!

Go carts are simple

[Josh Bayko]

Just making the bodies straight, flat, and symmetrical would work wonders, but I’m not holding my breath that they’ll ever do that.

[Action10]

Seems to me like we are waiting for a modern day Bob Memmer to fix this, because I don't see anything changing without a person like that entering the equation.

[BloomerWon]

Does the track adjust to the car or the car to the track?

That, is the question of the day...

[Buford.Justice]

The race cars back around 1980 were pretty good spec wise. The lexan was not that expensive either actually.

[In The Gas]

Does the track adjust to the car or the car to the track?

That, is the question of the day...

No doubt! I can’t believe all the b!tching about the track. I’ve seen a lot worse tracks than Brownstown was Saturday. I thought the idea behind racing was the guy with the best set up and biggest nut sack won the race. If you think you might flip then change your set up or lift. I’m pissed because they didn’t continue on cause the feature was going to be great.
Why are the drivers who flipped getting a pass on this? Slow down if you can’t handle the conditions.

[King1]

King1,

Tech would take hours for 30 cars.

Then allot more time for tech inspection and start early in the morning. You can’t stop guys from getting smarter, so you have to paint them into a box. If the box is tech inspection then so be it.

The bodies wouldn’t take very long and checking for one spring per corner wouldn’t be a big deal. However enforcing the shock deal would be difficult unless you mandated that the series provide the shocks or simply make them run twin tubes.

I just don’t know how you cut costs without making more rules and being tougher in tech inspection. Again you can’t trust a racer on a handshake, and you can’t keep them from learning new things and getting smarter.

But fixing the bodies would certainly stop a lot of what is going on right now

Checking for excessive droop, an 8” spoiler, deck height, split birdcages and the correct tire for the event isn’t tech inspection, it’s checking a box and checking boxes and going through the motions isnt doing the sport any favors.

Whether you like it or not, it’s headed in this direction and if they continue to let it go down this path then the bodies will be flatter, more sideways, shock technology will continue to evolve into more expensive technology, we’ll be running 8 springs on each corner, everyone will need an EMA dyno, and before you know it, nobody will waste their time running a national touring series because Mark Richards and everyone will continue to spoon feed you information with every 50k you spent. Only catch is that you’ll never obtain the names of the resources they work with to build speed.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

King1,

That's why I was serious about monoleaf. Then who cares what is in the shock? You can't get much hike from a shackle and eye. It's gotta be easy to enforce rules that would have a huge impact. Fancy shocks don't cause rollovers anyway. The rr being at the center of gravity, and high dynamic CG does.

It's easier to have rules that make technology useless, than to find where you made them hide it. We don't have time to dyno and disassemble shocks. I agree the bodies are stupid. I been saying that for years.

I mean Steve Francis couldn't even find 3 bars on the lr of the 28 Kryptonite car last night.

[84wedge]

I said during the Brownstown race that the cars are half rolled over anyway, they just need a little nudge in the right direction to go the rest of the way. If tracks were never smooth to begin with DLM's wouldn't have got where they are today. Richard Petty said something along the lines of dirt track racing used to be about getting through ruts and holes, now it's pretty much like asphalt.

[84wedge]

At least they were straight!

[ZERO25]

Like one driver told me, the cats outa the bag now!

Whatever rule they pass, we'll spend whatever it takes to get it back!

[HoosierDirtFan]

Update from Fast Eddy him self.

https://www.facebook.com/fastest.eddy/posts/10215929601587700

[buster83]

the cars today are built for dry track racing brownstown track was wet in turns 1 & 4 the best thing the track could do is put in some drainage system in the turns were the water lays.