Brownstown Proves There is a Problem.......

[crownman25]

sooo painting people in a corner with rules ? lets just go back to a open tire rule the days of 70 mounted tires and wheels, you get the picture?how do you guys know if the 3 or 18 didnt break a rf shock end off when it hit on the bump?

[crownman25]

also there is a big big probb with the lower class rf frame gouging holes in the track.

[crownman25]

could you imagine what the track would be like if the super cars never raised the rf frame rail up?

[3 wide]

They announced during the night that they were going to get grant for 200 thousand an total renovation of the grandstands they night think about spending some money on the track the track was rough from the beginning I have been there many times never seen it when they couldn't race on it I have been there when it came a flood at 5 o'clock an they still raced.

[MachineMasters]

Maybe extra soft left rear springs aren't a smart choice on a track like that.

Teams are 100% allowed to reduce LR drop and run stiffer LR spring rates. Yet when enough teams don't listen to the track conditions and flip, the series postpones the event until conditions are more favorable to standard racecar setups..

[Buford.Justice]

They announced during the night that they were going to get grant for 200 thousand an total renovation of the grandstands they night think about spending some money on the track the track was rough from the beginning I have been there many times never seen it when they couldn't race on it I have been there when it came a flood at 5 o'clock an they still raced.

Many of the seat boards do need to be replaced.

[FlatTire]

If limited droop fixes all the problems why hasn't the Ray Cook series taken over?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If limited droop fixes all the problems why hasn't the Ray Cook series taken over?

Ray limits droop just enough to make you mad. It does nothing to really alter the dynamics of the car, from the standpoint of rollover prevention.

The location of the rr tire, with respect to the rf, is a big problem too.

[Kromulous]

Another point, if a Driver wants to go out there on a track that is rough and soft, all pinned down on bump stops, so be it. Dont come back whining when you rolled it, flipped it or whatever. There has to be a point where personal responsibility / liability takes over. We dont live in a padded / fur lined World, so stop trying to make it that way.

Same with Tracks, and my post before about them. You want to make the big bucks, put in the work, or dont have the race, and stop handing out excuses galore after all the bad press comes out about your race. Every time there is a corn cob of a track to have to race on, and people complain, you see some excuse about rain, tractor broke, fell and broke my a$$ or whatever, im tired of hearing it.

Basically, its a BIG BOY world, you want to do stupid things, you can win stupid prizes...

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Another point, if a Driver wants to go out there on a track that is rough and soft, all pinned down on bump stops, so be it. Dont come back whining when you rolled it, flipped it or whatever. There has to be a point where personal responsibility / liability takes over. We dont live in a padded / fur lined World, so stop trying to make it that way.

Same with Tracks, and my post before about them. You want to make the big bucks, put in the work, or dont have the race, and stop handing out excuses galore after all the bad press comes out about your race. Every time there is a corn cob of a track to have to race on, and people complain, you see some excuse about rain, tractor broke, fell and broke my a$$ or whatever, im tired of hearing it.

Basically, its a BIG BOY world, you want to do stupid things, you can win stupid prizes...

There's a whole lot of truth to what you say as well. The teams have call the adjustments in the world. Use them.

[Buford.Justice]

I said during the Brownstown race that the cars are half rolled over anyway, they just need a little nudge in the right direction to go the rest of the way. If tracks were never smooth to begin with DLM's wouldn't have got where they are today. Richard Petty said something along the lines of dirt track racing used to be about getting through ruts and holes, now it's pretty much like asphalt.

Yes I agree, sadly many tracks are letting the drivers tell the promoters how to prep the track.

[Paradox28]

Yes I agree, sadly many tracks are letting the drivers tell the promoters how to prep the track.

Thing is, if a track has even just 1 rough spot everyone and their mama is yapping about it all over the internet. If its dry, they are yapping about it..if its too wet, they are yapping about it. Somewhere along the way we've forgotten that dirt is unpredictable and thats part of the charm.

[obamaracing#1]

Really informative thread 👍👍👍👍👍

[ride height]

All valid points. SLM racing isn’t at a crossroads. They’ll either fix it and survive with a good bit of folks able to continue doing it , or they won’t, and only a few will remain. Grass roots, family type teams will no longer exist. It’s completely out of control. I like watching speed as much as the next guy, but things are WAY out of whack. Only benefitting a few, and alienating many.

[ride height]

Won’t let me edit...its ..”IS AT A CROSSROADS..