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  • 84wedge
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 2094

    #1

    Target fixation on the track

    I've noticed a lot of drivers who are following a car they are faster than copying their moves on track. Tonight at Florence, Josh Rice had the faster car but was so locked in to O'Neal that he actually made the same mistakes at the same time preventing him from passing earlier. Jumping the cushion, getting out of shape. It's an interesting psychological phenomenon.
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #2
    It can be line commitment and you have no choice when the guy in front of you bobbles. Especially on the cushion. When you have momentum taking you to the berm, you can't just duck under a guy who messes up at corner center.
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    • Rajflyboy
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 5907

      #3
      Same thing happened in Texas (Indy Car race)

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      • TDRacin®
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1596

        #4
        Originally posted by Rajflyboy View Post
        Same thing happened in Texas (Indy Car race)
        Did it? What are talking about exactly?

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        • dirtcrazy4u
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 3212

          #5
          It's called free air. Today's race cars, from novice classes to formula 1 have become so aero dependent it's ridiculous. The guy following can catch the car in front. If there is no clean air to make the pass often times it gets pretty boring.

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          • Rajflyboy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 5907

            #6
            Follow the leader. No passing in Indy car race and some wrecks I believe due to fixation on the car in front. 1 lane track at Texas last night.

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            • TDRacin®
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1596

              #7
              Originally posted by Rajflyboy View Post
              Follow the leader. No passing in Indy car race and some wrecks I believe due to fixation on the car in front. 1 lane track at Texas last night.
              There wasn't any incidents related to fixation. Did you watch today's race?

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              • Rajflyboy
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2020
                • 5907

                #8
                Did not watch the Sunday race but I read there was some passing. Better race 👍 I think Bourdais got taken out by Newgarden possibly from fixation. No JJ to be found 😜

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                • EvelB7
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 905

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dirtcrazy4u View Post
                  It's called free air. Today's race cars, from novice classes to formula 1 have become so aero dependent it's ridiculous. The guy following can catch the car in front. If there is no clean air to make the pass often times it gets pretty boring.
                  So true, you get 'stalled out' as you approach the car in front of you. Same discussion as ever, get rid of as much 'aero' as you can and have better racing....

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                  • Rajflyboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 5907

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EvelB7 View Post
                    So true, you get 'stalled out' as you approach the car in front of you. Same discussion as ever, get rid of as much 'aero' as you can and have better racing....
                    The spoiler NASCAR uses at some tracks is basically a sheet of plywood. I say go with two inch spoilers and let the drivers sort out the rest

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                    • WisWildManFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 3225

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rajflyboy View Post
                      The spoiler NASCAR uses at some tracks is basically a sheet of plywood. I say go with two inch spoilers and let the drivers sort out the rest
                      And crank the power back up
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                      • Rajflyboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 5907

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WisWildManFan View Post
                        And crank the power back up
                        A hell yeah on this 👍

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                        • Bob Hubbard
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1048

                          #13
                          Florence Speedway

                          Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                          I've noticed a lot of drivers who are following a car they are faster than copying their moves on track. Tonight at Florence, Josh Rice had the faster car but was so locked in to O'Neal that he actually made the same mistakes at the same time preventing him from passing earlier. Jumping the cush ion, getting out of shape. It's an interesting psychological phenomenon.
                          ..... The Tracks up North race too early & are usually become a corn field this early in the year .... Florence only had one place to run in 3/4 .... Too me the only thing that made it a good race was seeing a local beat up on the series regulars .... Should be alittle different at the North vs South ...
                          Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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                          • MachineMasters
                            Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 74

                            #14
                            When the 2nd place car is that close to the car in front on the cushion, 2nd place needs to be more bent or sideways to compensate for the lack of front downforce (dirty air). When the leader pushes or jumps the cushion, 2nd place can rarely adjust in time to complete a pass.

                            Rice did a good job of attempting a pass each time he had an opportunity in my opinion. His turn 1 sliders were iffy most of the race but he got better and almost made them stick by the end, then it was just good driving in traffic to sneak by Huddy.

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bob Hubbard View Post
                              ..... The Tracks up North race too early & are usually become a corn field this early in the year .... Florence only had one place to run in 3/4 .... Too me the only thing that made it a good race was seeing a local beat up on the series regulars .... Should be alittle different at the North vs South ...
                              I agree. Rice was way faster but was never going to take the lead without the slight assist from EPJ.
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