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  • latemodelman
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1361

    #1

    Blaming Promoters for Low Car Counts

    It really is not the promoters fault for low car counts. Alot has to do with weather and other area tracks that are around and what they are racing and paying and I hate to say it but also what touring series are doing as well. Also a track that has a bad reputation or a promoter with a bad one can hurt as well. Eldora has gotten a taste over the years of this. When people complained about the bad racing and they changed the banking and all when they added the dirt and then they made some rule changes I remember seeing 17 late models there for 5,000 to win. and 20 mods and 20 stocks. Heck look what ya get car count wise for the Dream and World and all the other tracks and regional series run against it. So its not just a LaSalle problem.
  • TBSprintFan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 614

    #2
    Originally posted by latemodelman View Post
    It really is not the promoters fault for low car counts. Alot has to do with weather and other area tracks that are around and what they are racing and paying and I hate to say it but also what touring series are doing as well. Also a track that has a bad reputation or a promoter with a bad one can hurt as well. Eldora has gotten a taste over the years of this. When people complained about the bad racing and they changed the banking and all when they added the dirt and then they made some rule changes I remember seeing 17 late models there for 5,000 to win. and 20 mods and 20 stocks. Heck look what ya get car count wise for the Dream and World and all the other tracks and regional series run against it. So its not just a LaSalle problem.
    It was easily predicted where you were going with this topic, it didn't help that the promoter of the race rescheduled his on top of the race at Mississippi Thunder. If his earlier date didn't work out because of weather he could of have rescheduled it to a time when other tracks in the area weren't racing or just canceled, or there was always mid week. That's the problem of re scheduling a race on top of another.

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    • YeetIt
      Member
      • Mar 2021
      • 30

      #3
      Promoters are to blame for some problems. They will happily schedule over someone else's big show, even when tracks announce races a year ahead of time. Promoters are also guilty of flipping rules or sanctions on teams year to year. And recently a promoter drug touring cars to a soaked track to ultimately cancel while there was a $50k to win race happening the same day. Promoters are guilty, at this point they are guilty of grasping whatever few cars/fans are left in their area whenever possible.

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      • Action10
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2020
        • 358

        #4
        With the current big money races on the Lucas and WoO schedules, there aren't many (any?) weekends left for any makeup races that don't conflict with something.

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        • TBSprintFan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 614

          #5
          Originally posted by Action10 View Post
          With the current big money races on the Lucas and WoO schedules, there aren't many (any?) weekends left for any makeup races that don't conflict with something.
          Then you either cancel all together, or take a chance on a midweek show or race and $uck up the loss if there is one and don't @itch and complain about not getting the support.

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          • 427c.i.
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 1218

            #6
            Maybe making it a one day, 10k to win show on the Thursday before FC and FALS this coming weekend would have made for a better car count?

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            • 3 wide
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 1122

              #7
              Too many races this weekend woo atomic smoky mountain lasalle batesville not counting the smaller races that paid 5 thousand like Boyd's.

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              • Action10
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2020
                • 358

                #8
                Originally posted by TBSprintFan View Post
                Then you either cancel all together, or take a chance on a midweek show or race and $uck up the loss if there is one and don't @itch and complain about not getting the support.
                The promoter decides to cancel so he doesn't lose money on a reschedule event, then the drivers miss out on another chance at a decent payday. Then the sport continues to eat itself and we are eventually wondering why tracks are closing and drivers are leaving racing...

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                • EvelB7
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 881

                  #9
                  Promote, exactly what the name implies. The car counts/attendance are completely his responsibility...There are things that are out of his control, such as weather; however offer a better program, better surface and better experience and they will come!

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                  • Rajflyboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 5907

                    #10
                    Promoters should just pay the GOAT some big time show money’s and they will certainly get a great crowd

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                    • 50Dixon50
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2019
                      • 581

                      #11
                      Yeah I think billy would do that

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                      • Paradox28
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 286

                        #12
                        The only thing I hold a promoter on the line for is the track and how racy it is. Car counts are pretty well down in most areas in all classes this year. Theres also only so many weekends a year to race..especially the further north you go, so expecting every "name" driver to show up to any race thats considered a big payday is just not gonna happen, at least not right now. There are good paying races everywhere for super late models and its impossible to have a standalone event outside of the very few who can't be touched. There are a lot of talented racers who aren't "big names" that can be just as exciting to watch. If theres enough cars to make a full field..then I'm good with that.

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                        • Bob Hubbard
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1048

                          #13
                          How does the pay per view like ( flow racing ) come into the picture .... Money wise for the track ....
                          Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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                          • Rajflyboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 5907

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bob Hubbard View Post
                            How does the pay per view like ( flow racing ) come into the picture .... Money wise for the track ....
                            Outstanding question

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                            • EvelB7
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 881

                              #15
                              PT Barnum wore his signature hat, cane, and bullhorn to corral people into the 'big show'...Robert Smawley took a more modern and similar approach, and it worked (maybe his business model was horrible but everyone knew the 'Greatest Show on Dirt' and the girls he brought with him). Time for someone to apply the same ideas to modern technology instead of just posting on their website, facebook, or whatever. PROMOTE; excite people so that they do not want to miss it. Make your event something people plan on for months (fans want to see, drivers want to participate).

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