Eldora LOST its Luster

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #16
    Originally posted by Action10 View Post
    I disagree... Costs are huge to run up front in a modified right now and they are running for significantly smaller purses than late models.
    We can't help it guys turned a claimer engine class into a LM with junk tires.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • Action10
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2020
      • 358

      #17
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      We can't help it guys turned a claimer engine class into a LM with junk tires.
      Racers will go broke to win if they are allowed to. Always have and probably always will...

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14324

        #18
        Originally posted by Action10 View Post
        Racers will go broke to win if they are allowed to. Always have and probably always will...
        A lot have bigger wallet than capacity to learn.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • kazual
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 1168

          #19
          Originally posted by Action10 View Post
          Racers will go broke to win if they are allowed to. Always have and probably always will...
          Always been that way, in racing and lots of other so called “hobbies”.
          I hate time trials.

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          • TS FAN
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 4236

            #20
            LM have a lot of options where to race now. Costs of traveling are part of it. Also this Sunday night race was two weeks before the dream weekend in stead of one. Many teams would travel in for this race and stay the week for the dream.

            Simply put, there are a lot of LM's out there, but there is also a lot more options for races. To a certain degree its cost of travel vs racing closer to home. LM racing is in fine shape. I could care less if a race gets 70/80 cars vs 40/50 as long as they have top guys coming to the show

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            • Pennsboro32
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 3440

              #21
              No it hasn’t. It’s an entire sport problem, not just Eldora.

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              • TBSprintFan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 616

                #22
                Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                We can't help it guys turned a claimer engine class into a LM with junk tires.
                And that is exactly what has happened. Plus with there narrow tires and all that horsepower they rut up a track a lot faster.

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                • chupp n bloomer fan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 11526

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                  We can't help it guys turned a claimer engine class into a LM with junk tires.
                  Lol, too fukin true. So I have first hand knowledge of the class. Starting in 94’. My Dad had been out of racing for about 6 years. Still had his supplies, just no car. Bill Cunningham in NE Ohio was selling his EMod. Yes, they called them EMods. And they were. He coulda bought Bill’s car, I think minus the motor for like $5500 I think it was. Whatever the reason, he changed his mind. I wish he hadn’t, I know he missed it, but he did. And Bill was a front runner, and had a good car. I just think my Dad didn’t want to put in the time and money, because then that’d mean no fishing.

                  My brother got into the class in about 04’ I think. In a ThrowNDirt chassis. Then he went with a local guys crap car, had Joel Watson make it half decent. Then finally in 16’ he got a complete Mars car. They have been great to him, AJ, Chris, Jimmy, all of them. He has a new car for this year. Some of them people won’t let you use your stuff, Mars doesn’t care and gets it. My brother gets a good bit of stuff at cost through Summit, that’s his employer.

                  And the only reason he can race, my Dad paid for the start up, and now with him gone, my brother only affords it because he lives at home. The cost are insane. Shocks, tranny, motor, rearend, nuts. They are UMP now, so they are on that tire. We shall see.

                  But it’s darn near a late model with an 8” tire and 600-750ish horsepower.
                  Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                  • lurker
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 3343

                    #24
                    After read some more good comment in both Eldora threads, it has me thinking, again, what I‘ve already stated.

                    Maybe its simply just ME, and the 45 or so years of my involvement during the evolution of nowadays DLM’s as a “race vehicle” has passed ME by. The big noses, bigger bodies, aero, shock packages and the such. And the cars just don’t race like they once did. Maybe its just ME.
                    Last edited by lurker; 05-31-2021, 07:59 PM.

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                    • 3 wide
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 1141

                      #25
                      Who else pays 125 thousand to win twice a week try that out for luster.

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #26
                        Lurker,

                        I've been working on these things for 35 years. It's become a love/hate thing. They are not the same as they were. The more aero and engine dependent they become, the more I hate them.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • lurker
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 3343

                          #27
                          Thanks MasterSbilt_Racer

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                          • play4kps
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 595

                            #28
                            Eldora has no locals anymore, that is the big reason for the weak car count. After the Dreams, there will not be another late model race all summer, eldora doesnt race late models all summer. the next late model race after the dreams is the baltes classic in Spetember, let that sink in! For some reason Eldora has been standing always being fast. When Eldora is fast the late models run one fast groove all the way around the track, no passing, boring racing. But lets be honest, Eldora is not really about the racing anyways, its about the atmosphere and the drinking. Like I have said before, widen and take a lot of banking out of 3 and 4 and the races will be phenominal, less wear and tear on cars, more cars will show up! And complaining about modifieds purse is ridiculous, Until Lucas, WOO and UMP reign in the teams willing to spend a million to make a dime, the sport will continue to lose drivers, low car counts and less fans. I know Eldora will have big crowds for the dream and world, but the first 2 late model races had a weak fan turnout. Waynesfield is 35 miles away had 360 sprints and non wings sprints and had almost a full house.
                            Last edited by play4kps; 05-31-2021, 11:05 PM.

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                            • WisWildManFan
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 3226

                              #29
                              I’d like to see another track pull the driver talent that Eldora had for a $5k race.
                              Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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                              • jp631989
                                Member
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 40

                                #30
                                The 2017 Appleseed only had 16 Late Models there. Its nothing new to have lack luster Late Model counts for the events not called Dream or World 100.

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