What does it say when only 20 cars show up for $25k to win?

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  • dirty-white-boy
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 997

    #1

    What does it say when only 20 cars show up for $25k to win?

    Think about this for a minute. What does it say about this sport we all love when only 20 cars show up for a $25k to win event?

    You can give me all the excuses like "I need to stay home and get ready for the dream", "the track is too big" "its too hard on equipment".

    The WVMS promoter schedules a race on an off Lucas weekend and still nobody shows up.

    Back in the day racers would travel overnight between races to go chase the money. Show up at a track thrashing on the car before hot laps, then head back home and get ready for that next weekend of the same.

    I get it, the track is too big most as will argue but to me it goes deeper than that. Is 25k to win one day show/possible $35k not enough money anymore?

    sure makes me shake my head!
  • Action10
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 358

    #2
    I didn't bother to look or think about it, but how much did last place pay?

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14320

      #3
      Originally posted by Action10 View Post
      I didn't bother to look or think about it, but how much did last place pay?
      $1200 us dollars
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14320

        #4
        Originally posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
        Think about this for a minute. What does it say about this sport we all love when only 20 cars show up for a $25k to win event?

        You can give me all the excuses like "I need to stay home and get ready for the dream", "the track is too big" "its too hard on equipment".

        The WVMS promoter schedules a race on an off Lucas weekend and still nobody shows up.

        Back in the day racers would travel overnight between races to go chase the money. Show up at a track thrashing on the car before hot laps, then head back home and get ready for that next weekend of the same.

        I get it, the track is too big most as will argue but to me it goes deeper than that. Is 25k to win one day show/possible $35k not enough money anymore?

        sure makes me shake my head!
        It says absolutely nothing about the sport and everything about the track. There are examples that support the opinion there are issues, but WVMS is not a great example.

        On Saturday, we raced with 1 car that left WVMS, 2 that are a half hour tow, and many more that are a 1 hr tow.
        Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 06-07-2021, 12:51 PM.
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        • NeedforLM$peed
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 1637

          #5
          I actually thought 22 cars at Plymouth was kind of disappointing considered there was 33 the night before. Not even Casebolt went. He was at Atomic.
          2021 race count
          6 events

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          • LM1
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 328

            #6
            Gotta shorten WVMS if they want to attract bigger car counts

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            • Pennsboro32
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 3440

              #7
              Masters, Absolutely not. It’s a late model problem, not a track problem.

              Is it too big for cars now? Yes. But that’s only because the cars got out of hand. WVMS had no problem getting cars from 1985-2008. There was around 140 late models for the DTWC at WVMS in 2000. That tells me it’s a car problem and not a track problem. That’s not to say that WVMS shouldn’t be shortened, it may have to be if they don’t reel the prices of these cars in.
              Last edited by Pennsboro32; 06-07-2021, 01:40 PM.

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14320

                #8
                Why does WVMS always get boarded up? There seems to be a problem to me.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • Pennsboro32
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 3440

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                  Why does WVMS always get boarded up? There seems to be a problem to me.
                  Always been boarded up? I don’t think that’s very accurate.

                  You’re not digging into the question far enough. Why do you think cars stopped coming. The generic answer is it’s too big, but why is it too big NOW?

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14320

                    #10
                    Why was it shortened?

                    It's too big now for the same reason it was too big before.
                    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                    • Pennsboro32
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 3440

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      Why was it shortened?

                      It's too big now for the same reason it was too big before.
                      You’re not wrong but it wasn’t TOO big until 2008ish...

                      Wonder why that is?

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14320

                        #12
                        Cars make traction and never get out of the gas there.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • chopter33
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 167

                          #13
                          wrong class. pay the mods

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                          • noitall93w
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2020
                            • 181

                            #14
                            WVMS is too hard on equipment to draw cars

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                            • Highside Hustler25
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12950

                              #15
                              Did a little measuring.
                              Eldora, Knoxville, and WVMS.
                              Measured from the outer wall between 1&2 to the outer wall in 3&4.
                              Eldora- .17mile
                              Knoxville .20mile
                              WV. .23mile
                              It's the increased length in straightway speed that's pushing the motors to the limit. WV is like a paperclip compared to say Eldora or most 1/2 mile tracks.
                              8/13/16

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