No more 4 wheelers at eldora

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  • NeedforLM$peed
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 1637

    #16
    Originally posted by misguided1 View Post
    Earl is rolling over in his grave. What is happening here is what is wrong with late model dirt track racing. The people making the decisions on this and other rules are clueless. They are as dumb as a box of rocks. Who in the blank is making these decisions? You can either like or dislike Bobby Pierce. You don't DQ a driver over something as silly as this. Especially the biggest race of the year. What would have Earl done? He would have impounded the 4 wheeler and banned the driver of the machine from the grounds not DQ the driver. Earl had common sense. Earl would have never had an invitation only race. IE the Dream. He also would have fought like hell to keep the track running in 2020. Tony Stewart has become a corporate woke wimp.
    Banning 4 wheelers is what's wrong with Dirt Late Model racing? It's not the out of control costs?

    Rules are rules. The same rules apply whether it's a national tour, regional tour or individual track.

    Not sure what your referring to as invitational race. The Dream isn't an invitational race.

    Not only are you misguided1 but also misinformed1.
    2021 race count
    6 events

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    • golddirt
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3787

      #17
      Come on people bobby owned and accepted that it was one of his former crew members and he lives with but he knows the rules. Now as far as banning four wheelers I do think that is going a bit far and I do think we will see this rule reversed

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      • Barbecueboy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 18116

        #18
        Knee jerk because of a few jerks……..makes perfect sense.
        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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        • Barbecueboy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 18116

          #19
          Originally posted by golddirt View Post
          Come on people bobby owned and accepted that it was one of his former crew members and he lives with but he knows the rules. Now as far as banning four wheelers I do think that is going a bit far and I do think we will see this rule reversed
          He danced around it like it was the mirror ball trophy……….oh no, I was asleep wasn’t me….it was just 1 singular crew member, wasn’t me I was sleeping.

          Say what you want…..he needs to accept responsibility for his team and surround himself with more solid people or the excuses…drunken shirt burning…knocking cars off of jack stands with 4 wheelers…parents running out onto tracks…..crew members and family fighting like silver back gorillas in Arizona etc. is just going to continue.
          Maybe that’s what Bobby needs to motivate himself, I don’t know but it just seems foolish to keep swimming against the current so hard.

          It’s super cool they do it as a family and it’s definitely them against the world mentality , but at some point you look at your family and idiot crew members and yourself.

          It just can’t always be everyone else’s fault….nobody is that unlucky.
          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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          • CIRF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 8122

            #20
            Common logic would dictate that this was the last straw in a series of incidents. I have no idea if that it true but a piece of equipment utilized by nearly every dirt late model team is banned the reason had to be cumulative offenses over a period of time. The potential exposure to liability and the resulting litigation that goes with it must have gone beyond the tipping point.

            It's safe to assume Stewart doesn't want to see the inside of a courtroom for civil litigation involving serious injury or death ever again.

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            • golddirt
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3787

              #21
              Bbq Did you read his statement he excepted the responsibility for it because he was the driver was he happy with it no I wouldn’t either and neither would anybody else I’m not a hater and I’m not a nut hugger. And matter fact it don’t affect me one way or another it’s BPR that has to deal with it however they choose to do that

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              • kazual
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 1168

                #22
                Liability concerns are likely a tipping point. Drunks and four wheelers are a bad combo. Know in the late 90s there was an association of ATV manufacturers. Always thought if I was a safety guy for an industry and needed a lobbying firm I’d look at who the ATV group used because they have kept the feds at bay. Number of deaths and accidents annually per user is high, as are jet skis.
                I hate time trials.

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                • latemodelman
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1361

                  #23
                  So now either push the cars to tech or drive them

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12972

                    #24
                    👏👏👏Now let's get rid of the fn golf carts at some of these events. It's a racetrack. If ya want to drive around with your buddies drinking, go to your closest Jellystone campground.
                    8/13/16

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                    • latemodelman
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1361

                      #25
                      I did see they allowed 4 wheelers during tech so who knows.

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                      • kidrock
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 16433

                        #26
                        Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                        Common logic would dictate that this was the last straw in a series of incidents. I have no idea if that it true but a piece of equipment utilized by nearly every dirt late model team is banned the reason had to be cumulative offenses over a period of time. The potential exposure to liability and the resulting litigation that goes with it must have gone beyond the tipping point.

                        It's safe to assume Stewart doesn't want to see the inside of a courtroom for civil litigation involving serious injury or death ever again.

                        I agree on all fronts

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                        • Barbecueboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 18116

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                          Now let's get rid of the fn golf carts at some of these events. It's a racetrack. If ya want to drive around with your buddies drinking, go to your closest Jellystone campground.
                          John Blankenship would appreciate that……
                          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                          • Barbecueboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 18116

                            #28
                            Post 21

                            So when is enough enough ??? How many pit incidents, track incidents, truck stop call outs and the like is it going to take before someone admits there is a dam problem here?

                            Maybe that’s the message woo is sending here…..sux everyone else has to run wind sprints after practice because of one guys actions.
                            Anyone that’s played any type of organized football will know exactly what I’m talking about.
                            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                            • latemodelman
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1361

                              #29
                              They dont need 4 wheelers they should be able to pull into their pit area to fix whatever and be given 2 or 3 laps for a flat or whatever and then back to green just like in any other racing.

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                              • dirt farmer
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 100

                                #30
                                I've noticed at tracks down south is kids running around on 4wheelers and nothing to do with pushing a car are hauling tires, just running through the pits.

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