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  • buster83
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 1878

    #16
    shinysideup18 i know what you're saying but it's been that way in Lucas series for a very long time i call it a Bloomaroid
    rule.

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    • Pennsboro32
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2020
      • 3440

      #17
      Originally posted by 0_VodooChild_0 View Post
      Hudson O'Neal is James Essex's GOLDEN BOY. Hudson O'Neal is the one who dumped Thornton into a tire on lap 86 of the Jackson 100 but no mention by Essex. James always slobbers on O'Neal's number. Tired of the Essex BS & the constant slobbering over O'Neal. Essex sux, honestly. So does O'Neal
      You’re a bloomer fan yet you’re tired of Essex and Huddy…

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      • Highside Hustler25
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 12971

        #18
        If Essex has a golden boy, it's "SUPERMAN".

        that one's gettin old.
        JD is definitely Lucas's poster boy.
        8/13/16

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        • Pennsboro32
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2020
          • 3440

          #19
          Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
          If Essex has a golden boy, it's "SUPERMAN".

          that one's gettin old.
          JD is definitely Lucas's poster boy.
          It doesn’t have anything to do with him being really freaking good?

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          • TDRacin®
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1596

            #20
            I just went back and looked at it. I must have never paid attention, but apparently they have a LD rule and Hudson was the first car a lap down. Hawkins, Clanton, Ferguson and Richards all got laps back as well under the halfway yellow (Richards now the last car on the lead lap). So by rule I guess, it was fair and a smart move on his part by pitting on the following restart. When he came back out, he lined up behind the last car on the lead lap (14 cars on the lead lap at that point).

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            • 84wedge
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2020
              • 2094

              #21
              EPJ passed RTJ, who was ahead of O'Neil before the caution came out for gas (which I thought was odd, they got aroudn Eldora without refueling). Did O'Neil get his lap back by bringing out a caution?

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              • 84wedge
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2020
                • 2094

                #22
                There's an article on DoD about it now. It's the stupidest rule I've read about and the way they carried it out was even stupider. They didn't drop the yellow on 50 so the whole field raced until lap 51, RTJ was the last car on the lead lap but they turned back time to 50 when it was O'Neil, EVEN THOUGH THE GREEN WAS OUT THE WHOLE TIME. It's a very convoluted explanation and sounds a little fishy to me since they could just make up who was where and attribute it to either the race monitor or the flag man.

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #23
                  Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                  EPJ passed RTJ, who was ahead of O'Neil before the caution came out for gas (which I thought was odd, they got aroudn Eldora without refueling). Did O'Neil get his lap back by bringing out a caution?
                  They added fuel stops to a couple of shows in the last few years. This one and Knoxville. It's a symptom of the huge engines and the ridiculous down force. The rules of the race should not have changed. They should have either fixed the cars or forced teams to figure out how to race the race.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • TDRacin®
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1596

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                    There's an article on DoD about it now. It's the stupidest rule I've read about and the way they carried it out was even stupider. They didn't drop the yellow on 50 so the whole field raced until lap 51, RTJ was the last car on the lead lap but they turned back time to 50 when it was O'Neil, EVEN THOUGH THE GREEN WAS OUT THE WHOLE TIME. It's a very convoluted explanation and sounds a little fishy to me since they could just make up who was where and attribute it to either the race monitor or the flag man.
                    O'Neal* As I explained, they threw the yellow once EPJ crossed the stripe to start lap 51, so 50 laps complete (halfway) (dirt rules revert back to the last completed lap*). At that time, O'Neal was the first car a lap down, but even then, everyone a lap down at that point was waved by EPJ.

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                    • TRocket8
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 397

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                      There's an article on DoD about it now. It's the stupidest rule I've read about and the way they carried it out was even stupider. They didn't drop the yellow on 50 so the whole field raced until lap 51, RTJ was the last car on the lead lap but they turned back time to 50 when it was O'Neil, EVEN THOUGH THE GREEN WAS OUT THE WHOLE TIME. It's a very convoluted explanation and sounds a little fishy to me since they could just make up who was where and attribute it to either the race monitor or the flag man.
                      They let all the cars on the lead lap complete lap 50 before they threw the caution.

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                      • MEE
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 843

                        #26
                        They need a rule that if you stop on track to bring out a caution just so you can pit for any reason that you will go a lap down. I don't care who it is.This lucky dog and all the laps they run under caution waitingon teams to do all the stuff is really pathetic.

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                        • GRT32
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 680

                          #27
                          You should never benefit from bringing out the caution

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                          • 84wedge
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2020
                            • 2094

                            #28
                            Originally posted by GRT32 View Post
                            You should never benefit from bringing out the caution
                            Truer words have never been spoken

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                            • slmcrewchief99
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 738

                              #29
                              It's not any different than having a flat and having to bring out a caution. He caused a caution with no flat and couldn't change any.. His benefit was to make a shock adjustment. He had to go to the tail of the lead lap cars just like any other car that pits. Wasn't very many laps later a caution came and he could have pitted then and made the same adjustment along with tires. That's what Clanton did late in the race and ran 5th. Lucas made these rules several years ago. Hud played by the rules and won. EPJ could have pitted. Maybe if he did he could have been fast enough to win.

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                              • DirtyD31
                                Member
                                • Aug 2020
                                • 97

                                #30
                                I understand not agreeing with a rule, but I am amazed at how many race fans have to have this explained to them. This is not new, or hasn’t been taken advantage by many drivers. Bloomer used to stop in at the halfway point all the time make an adjustment or tires, and come out and drive up through the field. They probably made the rule about if u bring the caution out u can’t get tires unless u have a flat because of bloomer. It was an exciting race, big win and well played strategy by hud, and heartbreak loss for EPJ.

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