XR and Bellville to race against The Dream in 2022 with $25K and $50K shows

[LM1]

The fact that the press release include the statement that they expect to attract the biggest late model drivers in the country tells me someone is butt hurt. XR wouldn't even let Flo/DoD show a race recap on their site like they do for every other big LM race in the country. I don't know the back story but the scheduling almost seems intentional. I agree with the other posters that its far enough away where not a big deal but someone definitely wants to cause a stir.

[dirty-white-boy]

It's well known that white boy is an extreme over exaggerator.

How so? Debate me!!!!

The Dream had 63 cars this year (another big race with declining car count). Take a dozen away its down to 50 which is possible when XR does what they do, it makes someone else down south say yea I can do that too, Im putting up 20k to win and so on. Take 20 cars away which is very possible and its just another race in the world of Dirt Late Models that happens to pay 6 figures. Remember, 6 figures used to be a big deal but its really not anymore.

The fact that the press release include the statement that they expect to attract the biggest late model drivers in the country tells me someone is butt hurt. XR wouldn't even let Flo/DoD show a race recap on their site like they do for every other big LM race in the country. I don't know the back story but the scheduling almost seems intentional. I agree with the other posters that its far enough away where not a big deal but someone definitely wants to cause a stir.

Of course its intentional! As was putting 50k against Knoxville. And 50k against Brownstown.

[Pennsboro32]

How so? Debate me!!!!

The Dream had 63 cars this year (another big race with declining car count). Take a dozen away its down to 50 which is possible when XR does what they do, it makes someone else down south say yea I can do that too, Im putting up 20k to win and so on. Take 20 cars away which is very possible and its just another race in the world of Dirt Late Models that happens to pay 6 figures. Remember, 6 figures used to be a big deal but its really not anymore.




Of course its intentional! As was putting 50k against Knoxville. And 50k against Brownstown.

The car counts were down at Eldora because some teams did not want to be there for 4 days. Add in the tire problems, etc and you have what you have. Next season, I'd imagine it'll go back to 3 days and the car count to what it was two years ago.

The XR event isn't going to pull more than 3-4 cars away from Eldora. That event will be made up of Kansas/Missouri/Oklahoma/Nebraska drivers that weren't going to Eldora in the first place. There's your debate.

[dirty-white-boy]

The car counts were down at Eldora because some teams did not want to be there for 4 days. Add in the tire problems, etc and you have what you have. Next season, I'd imagine it'll go back to 3 days and the car count to what it was two years ago.

The XR event isn't going to pull more than 3-4 cars away from Eldora. That event will be made up of Kansas/Missouri/Oklahoma/Nebraska drivers that weren't going to Eldora in the first place. There's your debate.

I got a Benjamin and a Florence Watertower bobble head that says you are wrong.

[TDRacin®]

It is clearly obvious to all that the premier events staged at Eldora are going to get the most attention by teams and interested spectators, alike. But again, I've been to both tracks many times and when it comes to shear bad-ass Eldora takes a back seat to The High Banks hands down. No possible way will Belleville hurt The Dream in regards to quantity of spectators or quality of participants. I know very little of the group that is to promote the deal at The High Banks but when all the lore of the facility, track and the partying is peeled away Belleville compares quite favorably to Eldora, without the dust and glazing over and/or rubbering up of the track.

Has Belleville ever run a LM event?

[CIRF]

The XR event isn't going to pull more than 3-4 cars away from Eldora. That event will be made up of Kansas/Missouri/Oklahoma/Nebraska drivers that weren't going to Eldora in the first place. There's your debate.

If a portion of the XR groups' objective is to disrespect Stewart and his dusty, glazed over/rubbered-up track prep (I'll bet a buck or two right now that The High Banks won't be dusty, glazed over or rubbered up) then so be it and I'm all for it. In all probability the attempt at disrespect will fall flat but the perceived intent is admirable, nonetheless! If disrespect overshadows the desire to make money then whatever economic consequences come their way is earned. I hardly believe that to be the case.

I am good friends with several people that live in Belleville, Kansas who stand to monetarily benefit from this event and I very much hope they do! Who the promoter is or their motive for scheduling it the weekend that they did is of no concern.

[Pennsboro32]

If a portion of the XR groups' objective is to disrespect Stewart and his dusty, glazed over/rubbered-up track prep (I'll bet a buck or two right now that The High Banks won't be dusty, glazed over or rubbered up) then so be it and I'm all for it. In all probability the attempt at disrespect will fall flat but the perceived intent is admirable, nonetheless! If disrespect overshadows the desire to make money then whatever economic consequences come their way is earned. I hardly believe that to be the case.

I am good friends with several people that live in Belleville, Kansas who stand to monetarily benefit from this event and I very much hope they do! Who the promoter is or their motive for scheduling it the weekend that they did is of no concern.

I'm not sure why you keep quoting me talking about track prep. I haven't mentioned track prep one time. None of my argument has anything to do with track prep.

However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what this XR guy is doing. He's already scheduled on top of Eldora, Lucas, WoO/WRG, FLO. He's not making any friends. There's not enough room for XR at the table.

[CIRF]

Yes they have TDRacing. It's been a while, though. IIRC the last time DLM's ran at The High Banks was 2008. I do know for sure that Billy Moyer Sr. holds the SDLM track record.

[CIRF]

I'm not sure why you keep quoting me talking about track prep. I haven't mentioned track prep one time. None of my argument has anything to do with track prep.

However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what this XR guy is doing. He's already scheduled on top of Eldora, Lucas, WoO/WRG, FLO. He's not making any friends. There's not enough room for XR at the table.

I'll try to clear it up for you. You're the one who is holding all things Eldora in the highest esteem and other than the lore, the history and the party there is little that is superior to Belleville. I mention track prep because it warrants disrespect by whoever is dishing it out and I'm sure the Belleville track will be far superior in that regard. I've attended both facilities many times. Have you? I didn't think so.

If this event Belleville event doesn't interest you and you have no monetary stake in either event then it's puzzling as to why the disdain and concern for your perceived lack of respect by the promoter. Did this XR outfit piss in your breakfast cereal? LOL!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

XR on some good a$$ sticky icky

Guy is an idiot, yeah I’ll say it.

Eldora was really good on Saturday of the World 100. Guys are just so equal. Cushion, moisture, etc.

I don’t think it’s a terrible idea IF you do what Flo is doing and schedule them NOT against bigger races.

It will flop, the names will be at Eldora.

I wouldn’t bash Belleville, I know it’s a good joint. Just as I still see Eldora as a great place. But good fukin luck.

If I was Tony, $300k to win, $10k to start, F off.

[NeedforLM$peed]

Still not sure how it's a gimmick. A gimmick is a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity or business. The tracks aren't an hour apart and one event pays $75k more. Let the drivers and owners decide. I say "Race On".

[dirty-white-boy]

Look at the money they just put up for 8 nights at Bristol!

They are the AirBnB of Dirt right now, big disrupter!

[Pennsboro32]

I'll try to clear it up for you. You're the one who is holding all things Eldora in the highest esteem and other than the lore, the history and the party there is little that is superior to Belleville. I mention track prep because it warrants disrespect by whoever is dishing it out and I'm sure the Belleville track will be far superior in that regard. I've attended both facilities many times. Have you? I didn't think so.

If this event Belleville event doesn't interest you and you have no monetary stake in either event then it's puzzling as to why the disdain and concern for your perceived lack of respect by the promoter. Did this XR outfit piss in your breakfast cereal? LOL!

CIRF, I've always thought you were one of the better posters on here. Not sure what your problem is today but I've got time to bite.

It would be no different than someone scheduling on top of one of your beloved "crown jewel" sprint car races. Lets use the Knoxville nationals for example, how well would it be perceived if some moron out east ran a $50,000 to win show against the 410 Knoxville Nationals? I'm going to assume not real well.

As far as Eldora, I'll never deny my love for that place. I've been going there for 23 years. I'm only 30. I don't have to tell you how important Eldora is to DLM racing. I also don't know how we got on the subject of track prep, especially since I never once mentioned it, heck I'd agree it hasn't been the best lately. That doesn't take away the fact it's Eldora. I not once downgraded Belleville's track. I even said I'd love to go some day. Have I been? No, considering it's better than 15 hours away. Thanks for throwing that little elbow in there even though I'm not sure why it was needed. One doesn't have to attend a track to discuss the ramifications of scheduling on top of big time events.

I don't know how much you keep up with the DLM landscape (clearly not as much as some) so let me lay it out for you like I'm teaching a child. It's not smart to schedule on top of events, especially considering the events that they're scheduling against. It's not just Eldora, it was Knoxville, among others, and there's more coming. Eldora will be fine, I'm not worried about that, but the other events they're running on top of could cause problems. You've admitted you don't know the current XR group and that's obvious, I'll leave it at that, just do a little research before you fire at me.

[raburke23]

Pretty hard to compare Bellville to Eldora for track prep when Bellville hasn't hosted a SLM race in nearly 15 years. Track prep for other divisions is very different.

[raburke23]

And noone is knockings the idea, the track, the town or the race. Its simply wild to me to schedule on top of the Dream and then say you are going to pull in the best SLM drivers in the country.