XR and Bellville to race against The Dream in 2022 with $25K and $50K shows

[play4kps]

Lets keep it real, there is only 7 or 8 cars capable of winning the dream or world with the track in its current state. They did lay new clay down so we will see!

[NeedforLM$peed]

I guess posting facts about how a few other events have similar payouts throughout the field compared to the World will get your post deleted. I see my response to post #73 disappeared.

[RacerZ]

☝Must be a glitch in the system? Happens to me alot...
Just re-post it...

[Action10]

There is not enough top tier talent to be split 3 ways.

Be careful, people on here will start losing their minds about only going to see stars instead of quality racing... I agree with you and think that the current state of the WoO series shows that the top shelf talent is already thin on that tour.

[LM1]

The XR owner posted on FB to Keep your timelines open, adjustments coming. I think the Belleville date might be changing? Crazy as it is I think its very possible that they didn't even consider the Dream dates when they scheduled this.

[Krooser]

When I started my traditional hot rod show here in Wisconsin all I heard was I couldnt schedule against Bonneville Speed Week or Sturgis. I guess the 28,000 people that showed up didnt get the memo.

Running a DLM race 800 miles apart isnt an issue.

There are only so many weekends each year. As long as the fans are entertained thats all we can hope for.

[Pennsboro32]

When I started my traditional hot rod show here in Wisconsin all I heard was I couldnt schedule against Bonneville Speed Week or Sturgis. I guess the 28,000 people that showed up didnt get the memo.

Running a DLM race 800 miles apart isnt an issue.

There are only so many weekends each year. As long as the fans are entertained thats all we can hope for.

That's great, however, nobody is comparing fan count. Apples to oranges my friend.

My entire argument has been about the future outlook of the sport more so than even Belleville vs Eldora.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The car counts were down at Eldora because some teams did not want to be there for 4 days. Add in the tire problems, etc and you have what you have. Next season, I'd imagine it'll go back to 3 days and the car count to what it was two years ago.

The XR event isn't going to pull more than 3-4 cars away from Eldora. That event will be made up of Kansas/Missouri/Oklahoma/Nebraska drivers that weren't going to Eldora in the first place. There's your debate.

Everyone actually had the option to run 2 days, however. That's actually more doable than 3. The tire situation may have scared some away, but I feel the setup was actually easier.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

That's great, however, nobody is comparing fan count. Apples to oranges my friend.

My entire argument has been about the future outlook of the sport more so than even Belleville vs Eldora.

The more we fractionalize it, spread around the influence of various decision makers, the better off we will be.

[Pennsboro32]

Everyone actually had the option to run 2 days, however. That's actually more doable than 3. The tire situation may have scared some away, but I feel the setup was actually easier.

I think a handful of teams did go the last two days. Maybe more teams should have done that. I just know that there were two race programs that live within 30 min of me that didn't go because they couldn't get enough help to be there for four days or felt that 4 days was too much, and one of them that I sponsor had tire concerns.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I think a handful of teams did go the last two days. Maybe more teams should have done that. I just know that there were two race programs that live within 30 min of me that didn't go because they couldn't get enough help to be there for four days or felt that 4 days was too much, and one of them that I sponsor had tire concerns.

I believe that. I think more people should have thought outside the box a little and recognized them as separate events. I think the 3 day deal has pushed a few out and I thought this was a chance to get a few back in, if they approached it that way.

[Buford.Justice]

Here is a video of LM racing at Belleville.

https://youtu.be/XSygL4LzgOo

Faster and larger than Eldora. Not nearly as slick and dusty also.

[Action10]

The more we fractionalize it, spread around the influence of various decision makers, the better off we will be.

I'm not sure I agree... Where does this stop? Each track and series having it's own distinct set of body, engine, and tire rules to the point where they aren't even close to each other would be a major problem.

[Pennsboro32]

I'm not sure I agree... Where does this stop? Each track and series having it's own distinct set of body, engine, and tire rules to the point where they aren't even close to each other would be a major problem.

Agree, there aren't enough supers in the country to start dividing them up with rule changes, 3 National series, etc. It could have gotten bad in 2004, but there were enough cars back then to make it through. in 2021, I'm not so sure. Has NDRL written all over it to me.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm not sure I agree... Where does this stop? Each track and series having it's own distinct set of body, engine, and tire rules to the point where they aren't even close to each other would be a major problem.

We are headed down a horrible path now. We need a group to have the freedom to fix things and for others to see they are right.

When the wedges were killed, we had wedge and non wedge for a time. Then people were able to see the light.

The fixation on having a big series to cater to 15 guys is a huge detriment to the sport as a whole. Those people are gonna race regardless of the hand holding they receive.