XR and Bellville to race against The Dream in 2022 with $25K and $50K shows

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Agree, there aren't enough supers in the country to start dividing them up with rule changes, 3 National series, etc. It could have gotten bad in 2004, but there were enough cars back then to make it through. in 2021, I'm not so sure. Has NDRL written all over it to me.

The long slow path to ruin is no plan for the future. A forest fire is needed every now and then to allow new trees to take root.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm not sure I agree... Where does this stop? Each track and series having it's own distinct set of body, engine, and tire rules to the point where they aren't even close to each other would be a major problem.

It's a problem that I had to gut and rebuild a perfectly good race car because Ken Kenneda, Jason Durham, and Steve Francis didn't want to send one of their guys home at any point in 2010 thru present time.

I'm running local and regional stuff. Why should their lack of enforcement force me to race a maximum down force wedge car? Why should I have suspension parts obsoleted because they fear Rumley? It makes no sense.

That's essentially the same thing as different rules at different places. Your car is right, then it isn't competitive the next month.

[Action10]

We are headed down a horrible path now. We need a group to have the freedom to fix things and for others to see they are right.When the wedges were killed, we had wedge and non wedge for a time. Then people were able to see the light.The fixation on having a big series to cater to 15 guys is a huge detriment to the sport as a whole. Those people are gonna race regardless of the hand holding they receive.

The long slow path to ruin is no plan for the future. A forest fire is needed every now and then to allow new trees to take root.

Not saying you are wrong about changes being needed in the sport. Just noting that splintering the sport is not the best way to do it IMO... The complete dismantling of dlm racing is not a good idea at this point either because I don't think it would come back. A fraction of the total racing fans would be upset about it, but then life would go on without it. Maybe another class gets bigger and fills a part of the void, but I can't imagine a situation where a tour is racing street stocks for $12,000 to win every week.

[Pennsboro32]

The sport is already too far gone.

[ZERO25]

Guy is an idiot, yeah I’ll say it.

Eldora was really good on Saturday of the World 100. Guys are just so equal. Cushion, moisture, etc.

I don’t think it’s a terrible idea IF you do what Flo is doing and schedule them NOT against bigger races.

It will flop, the names will be at Eldora.

I wouldn’t bash Belleville, I know it’s a good joint. Just as I still see Eldora as a great place. But good fukin luck.

If I was Tony, $300k to win, $10k to start, F off.


Pretty sure Marcus Smith is behind this. He can buy Tony out with his petty cash!

He was pretty elated on Dale Jrs show about Bristols first go at dirt!

[zyoung25]

It only makes sense to me that SMI is behind this whole deal somehow.

[sa98]

I'm not saying putting these big money headlines out there isn't good, but I feel like no one sees the nickel and diming that goes on behind the scenes at the XR events. Pass prices. Fees for this. Fees for that. The list of "You Can't"s. & I'm not saying Eldora doesnt have its quirks and do the same, but it's at least only twice a year and more reasonable.

[Dougan1640]

Maybe I am in the minority here but this is what is great about capitalism. Anyone at anytime can do what they want, let the fans and drivers decide if it flops or not. Also lets be honest, there are very little openings for weekends in the dirt late model world. Every race thinks no one should step on their toes, well you won't make it anywhere in this world without stepping on some toes every now and then. Lets see if Eldora fights back which it looks like they may. For the record I will be at Eldora just like every year.

[NeedforLM$peed]

Whether or not Eldora pays $54k, $125k, $1 million or $1 billion. The same 6-8 cars/drivers still have the best shot of winning.

[kazual]

World Of Outlaws late models ran Belleville a couple of times as recall, maybe 2008 or so. Don’t recall it racing that well, could be wrong.

[play4kps]

If anyone watched the Kings Royal or 4 crown from Eldora, you would have seen great racing, still to dusty but great racing! Nobody wants to address the elephant in the room. Technology is killing dirt late model racing, too much aero, too much on shocks, and so on! Once these cars get out front in open air, they check out. Im not sure what eldora can do to fix, other than removing most of the banking. The actual cars are killing the sport. Even Bloomquist a few years ago admitted Eldora is 99% car, 1% driver. He was right.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If anyone watched the Kings Royal or 4 crown from Eldora, you would have seen great racing, still to dusty but great racing! Nobody wants to address the elephant in the room. Technology is killing dirt late model racing, too much aero, too much on shocks, and so on! Once these cars get out front in open air, they check out. Im not sure what eldora can do to fix, other than removing most of the banking. The actual cars are killing the sport. Even Bloomquist a few years ago admitted Eldora is 99% car, 1% driver. He was right.

Because Eldora is Eldora, they can do whatever they want. They could easily tell UMP that the race will be run with their rules, but no spoiler.

[kazual]

There’s a reason I find myself more attracted to open wheel non-wing sprints and midgets than in the past and less enthused about open late models. Even winged sprints and modifieds provide more entertainment than late models. I skipped the Show Me this past Memorial Day, few years back would have never believed that.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

^^they have maintained the same car for decades and they race really well without all the aero baggage.

[LM1]

Belleville $50k dates have been moved to Monday-Tuesday June 13-14 so as not to compete with the Dream. How many drivers will make the 11-12 hours drive on Sunday after the Dream to go there?