The droop rule disaster

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #1

    The droop rule disaster

    The droop rule has been doing a great job of taking nice runs away from small time racers.

    Casey Shuman is on Twitter talking about how "rich teams" were getting their spoiler higher on the track, so that made this necessary. I hate to tell him, but thinking and a grasp of geometry costs nothing. He just made the process more complicated, and thus more expensive. Maybe ask, "why does the quest for more hike exist"? It's downforce. Just take that away in a straightforward path. Problem solved.

    When they say "big money", they really meaning thinking. They don't want thinking. They want spec cars. They want every new prospective owner to think he can buy a car as good as the Rumley 6. Racing does not work like that. It rewards hard work and ingenuity.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
  • fastford
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4059

    #2
    it use to reward hard work and ingenuity , but the idea they want spec cars is correct , they want those new and existing owners to feel they can buy a car that is totally equal to all other cars out there , then get a hot shoe like larson , that probably knows less about actual set up than most out there , to be able to sit in it and win .....jmo

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    • Just The Tip
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 231

      #3
      Leave it to the sanctions to eff up a simple fix. Body rules should be easy enough to check that you shouldnt need a jack to check it.

      My ideal fix would be:
      -Right front wheel must be in line with right rear
      -Nose piece must measure equal distance to ground on both furthest ends, lets say 5 inches
      -Nose piece must not have a protruding lip any further than .5 inches
      -Deck must measure level front to back, left to right
      -Decking must be level with the top of the door panels

      What do you think MasterSbult_Racer, some simple body rule adjustments can fix a whole host of the current issues. Just unhook the aero downforce and that would be a huge step in the right direction.
      Last edited by Just The Tip; 02-13-2022, 01:59 PM.

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14310

        #4
        Originally posted by Just The Tip View Post
        Leave it to the sanctions to eff up a simple fix. Body rules should be easy enough to check that you shouldnt need a jack to check it.

        My ideal fix would be:
        -Right front wheel must be in line with right rear
        -Nose piece must measure equal distance to ground on both furthest ends, lets say 5 inches
        -Nose piece must not have a protruding lip any further than .5 inches
        -Deck must measure level front to back, left to right
        -Decking must be level with the top of the door panels

        What do you think MasterSbult_Racer, some simple body rule adjustments can fix a whole host of the current issues. Just unhook the aero downforce and that would be a huge step in the right direction.
        I don't like nose height measurements, because I don't want noses ripped off, but I mostly agree with you.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • Rajflyboy
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2020
          • 5907

          #5
          Bring back the wedge bodies 😜😁

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          • 0_VodooChild_0
            Banned
            • Dec 2019
            • 204

            #6
            This crap of trying to get the left rear corner 8 feet in the air is ruining the sport. Freaking stupid the way they look now.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14310

              #7
              Originally posted by 0_VodooChild_0 View Post
              This crap of trying to get the left rear corner 8 feet in the air is ruining the sport. Freaking stupid the way they look now.
              The only real problem is the downforce and the hole they punch in the air that cripples the car behind them. If it's beneficial to do it, it won't stop. If it is no longer beneficial, it won't be done.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14310

                #8
                Originally posted by Rajflyboy View Post
                Bring back the wedge bodies 
                They already did.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • dirtSLMracing
                  Banned
                  • May 2010
                  • 664

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Just The Tip View Post
                  Leave it to the sanctions to eff up a simple fix. Body rules should be easy enough to check that you shouldnt need a jack to check it.

                  My ideal fix would be:
                  -Right front wheel must be in line with right rear
                  -Nose piece must measure equal distance to ground on both furthest ends, lets say 5 inches
                  -Nose piece must not have a protruding lip any further than .5 inches
                  -Deck must measure level front to back, left to right
                  -Decking must be level with the top of the door panels

                  What do you think MasterSbult_Racer, some simple body rule adjustments can fix a whole host of the current issues. Just unhook the aero downforce and that would be a huge step in the right direction.
                  I have asked before why the right front stuck out so far but no one responded. I didnt know if it was to clear suspension or just to help handling.

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                  • dirtcrazy4u
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 3212

                    #10
                    Take the elephant ears off and make the interior panels level 3" below the top of the air cleaners back to a 6 " spoiler. The right side of these cars are getting way out of hand.

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14310

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
                      I have asked before why the right front stuck out so far but no one responded. I didnt know if it was to clear suspension or just to help handling.
                      It helps with handling. The rr picks up more of the lateral weight transfer when it's closer to the mass of the car, as opposed to the rf.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • dirtSLMracing
                        Banned
                        • May 2010
                        • 664

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        It helps with handling. The rr picks up more of the lateral weight transfer when it's closer to the mass of the car, as opposed to the rf.
                        10-4... seems if they brought the right front in it would make the cars harder to drive and the racing better.

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                        • Rajflyboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 5907

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                          They already did.
                          Don’t tell anybody 😜

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14310

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
                            10-4... seems if they brought the right front in it would make the cars harder to drive and the racing better.
                            It might, but it's another somewhat tricky measurement to enforce. I want the days back where the suspension wasn't important as long as the wheels were in the right place (track width, wheel base, etc.)

                            All the downforce makes them easy to drive. I'd be okay with no spoiler at all. You'd be amazed at what that would do.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • Rajflyboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 5907

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                              It might, but it's another somewhat tricky measurement to enforce. I want the days back where the suspension wasn't important as long as the wheels were in the right place (track width, wheel base, etc.)All the downforce makes them easy to drive. I'd be okay with no spoiler at all. You'd be amazed at what that would do.
                              No spoiler would be awesome

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