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  • Finnfan25
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 165

    #16
    Originally posted by nc mudcat View Post
    What an idiotic response. The man said to look at safety. Something all tracks should doe, without something happening and forcing them to do so. He didn't "demand" anything or "expect" anything, just made a suggestion, and that becomes "you will kill the sport?" WOW.
    Totally agree with the mudcat here. Don't know BTExpress or Voodoo Child so no bone to pick with either, but after reading the OP's post, he didn't demand anything, he simply said tracks need to "take a look at safety measures". There are dozens of things track could implement and enforce (key word...enforce) that wouldn't cost anything. While I agree with Voodoo that there are still wild crashes, every single track I go to has WAY too many people to close to the track, be it spectator's, photographers, crew members, track staff, etc... But I don't understand the vitriol in the seemingly kneejerk reply attack. Geez, the OP seems to be suggesting that tracks become more active in safety precautions, not kill the sport.

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    • nc mudcat
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 791

      #17
      Originally posted by 0_VodooChild_0 View Post
      To take my response, cut it up to fit your narrative is a D O U C H E B A G move, GFY becuz what you [posted is NOT what I said. Your are a POS!!!!!
      You just can't stop. I have no narrative, but I would like for a poster to be able to make a suggestion without people like you beating them down and changing what they said into "your narrative." The man made a statement that suggested looking into safety. It would seem that would be appreciated by all. But then there is you!

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      • kidrock
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 16433

        #18
        If a track doesn't make safety priority number one they might be asking for trouble plain and simple

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        • Josh Bayko
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 8756

          #19
          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
          I have a local track where racers are cheering the removal of what I consider a safety improvement. We can't even all agree what a safety improvement is.
          It's all fun and games until somebody smacks the blunt end in the 3rd turn again.
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          • Jerky
            Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 57

            #20
            55 gallon plastic water barrels and 10lb fire extinguishers both cost $50. Investing $100 at every guardrail opening in the infield and track exit would be a start.

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            • Jerky
              Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 57

              #21
              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
              I have a local track where racers are cheering the removal of what I consider a safety improvement. We can't even all agree what a safety improvement is.
              Geez....I gotta ask....what is it?

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14324

                #22
                Originally posted by Jerky View Post
                Geez....I gotta ask....what is it?
                A wall on the backstretch, because there is a wall on the 3 @ 4 end that starts at the entrance to 3. There are racers who actually want to be able to come off 2, dogleg the backstretch, and come back into the track before hitting the end of the turn 3 wall. Yes,the blunt end of the wall...
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                • TerryM
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 3902

                  #23
                  So being able to dogleg, or diamond, or whatever, is worth the risk of hitting the square end of those concrete construction barriers, head on? That’s crazy.

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                  • 84wedge
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 2094

                    #24
                    Amazing there's no footage. Was it a late model?

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                    • Crash 4
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 671

                      #25
                      Insurance companies and lawsuits will shut down a track faster than any post on 4M. From what I have read, this track will be in danger of that. This kind of accident hurts all short tracks, very few insurance companies across the US are willing to insure race tracks currently. This type of accident will raise the rates for many of them, no matter their safety record.

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                      • MEE
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 843

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        A wall on the backstretch, because there is a wall on the 3 @ 4 end that starts at the entrance to 3. There are racers who actually want to be able to come off 2, dogleg the backstretch, and come back into the track before hitting the end of the turn 3 wall. Yes,the blunt end of the wall...
                        ( Yes,the blunt end of the wall... )Blunt end ?? There's been big tires and huge hay bails at the end of that wall for years now.
                        Last edited by MEE; 02-28-2022, 02:11 PM.

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14324

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MEE View Post
                          ( Yes,the blunt end of the wall... )Blunt end ?? There's been big tires and huge hay bails at the end of that wall for years now.
                          There's still a blunt end right behind those tires. Cars still go from 90 to zero in 0.2 second. Your car is trash and you still feel like Mike Tyson whipped you the next day, or potentially much worse...

                          Pretty sad when the whole thing could be completely avoidable, with multiple approaches.

                          It's by far the most dangerous hazard of any track I attend with regularity.
                          Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 02-28-2022, 03:14 PM.
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                          • zyoung25
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 8958

                            #28
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            There's still a blunt end right behind those tires. Cars still go from 90 to zero in 0.2 second. Your car is trash and you still feel like Mike Tyson whipped you the next day, or potentially much worse...

                            Pretty sad when the whole thing could be completely avoidable, with multiple approaches.

                            It's by far the most dangerous hazard of any track I attend with regularity.
                            A buddy of mine hit that wall in his mod with the tires and water barrels. It not only junked his car, but it also messed him physically for a few days. It basically ripped the car in half.

                            It was less dangerous before they added the extra grandstand several years ago. A lot of people won't even remember it being that way.

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                            • MEE
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 843

                              #29
                              (A lot of people won't even remember it being that way.)A very close friend of mine hit that wall in his mod at the DTWC and same race the 18 Wells hit it with lm.The wall used to be way on back toward turn 4 more back then. I'm not trying to argue about the safety of the wall ,just MR made it sound like it was blunt concrete wall with nothing in front of it.

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14324

                                #30
                                Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                                A buddy of mine hit that wall in his mod with the tires and water barrels. It not only junked his car, but it also messed him physically for a few days. It basically ripped the car in half.

                                It was less dangerous before they added the extra grandstand several years ago. A lot of people won't even remember it being that way.
                                Right that grandstand is why there is a wall there. At one time, there were no stands down there. A wall should never begin at corner entry on any race track. You should be boxed in before you leave the straight, so it's a glancing blow. I don't care what you do with tires, water barrel, etc. It's beyond sub-optimal.
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