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  • foxfire2dirtracing
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2290

    #16
    Zero25

    Excellent observation!

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    • ZERO25
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 5240

      #17
      Heres the whole story:


      USAC excludes penalty after testing tires at three labs; Team pulls out
      Shane Walters
      1 hour ago

      A very unique situation after four tires failed initial testing
      Back in February, the USAC National Sprint Car Series opened their 2022 season. Three straight nights of racing took place at Bubba Raceway Park.

      Emerson Axsom drove to victory lane in two of the races. Justin Grant picked up the other win. As the teams loaded up, tire samples were collected.

      USAC collected four samples throughout the opening weekend, all four samples failed the initial test.

      On March 23, USAC announced that due to the unprecedented situation of four of four samples failing, that the were exploring a resolution. They began to seek further analysis.


      Yesterday, USAC announced that the tire samples were sent to two additional labs. They also sent another sample back to the initial testing lab. The one that failed originally, failed again. Meanwhile, the same samples sent to the other two labs came back with tests that conformed to the brenchmark.

      USAC excludes penalty after testing tire samples at three labs
      USAC released the following update:

      “Officials of the United States Auto Club released information on Thursday, March 31, relating to extensive tire analysis following the testing of tire samples following a USAC National Sprint Car event in Ocala, Florida in February.”

      “Routine post-race tire samples were taken by USAC officials, following all protocols in securing samples and submitting for lab analysis. The initial testing resulted in all four samples, from four unique race teams, being returned as “not meeting the benchmark,” which is a measurement versus the original manufacturing date code of the tire samples taken.”

      “Additionally, those traits found to have not met the manufacturer benchmark were not those typically found in tires which have proven to be altered from the manufacturer specification for the purpose of competitive advantage.”

      “The analysis of the original results not meeting the benchmark, as well as having an atypical pattern of all samples failing the benchmark in an identical manner, resulted in USAC requesting extensive additional testing and analysis being completed to verify initial testing results.”


      Tests at additional labs
      “Tire samples which failed the original test, along with the original benchmark samples, were sent to three prominent testing labs, including the original testing lab, for further analysis. While the known failed sample again failed at the original testing lab, this same tire sample was tested during the same time window at two additional labs and both labs deemed the samples as not altered from the factory specifications.”

      “After receiving guidance from the two alternative testing labs that these samples met benchmarks, specific instruction was given to both labs to retest in an attempt to identify a specific chemical trait that was prominent in both the initial failed test and retest by the original lab. With the specific chemical trait as their guide, both alternative labs reported they could not find this chemical trait that prompted the original failed test.”

      Beyond testing labs, USAC also sent the tire to one of the tire manufactures.

      “Additionally, based on the professional opinions of the two additional testing facilities, the tire samples presented were not deemed to be chemically-altered from the manufacturer benchmark. A third-party executive professional compounder from one of the world’s largest tire manufacturers reviewed all results and concurred with the end analysis.”

      USAC excludes tire penalty
      “USAC takes any alteration of specified tires as an attempt to gain an unfair advantage and a serious rule violation. Penalties associated with treating tires to gain an advantage are severe, including a first offense of a six-race suspension and a $2500 fine in addition to lost purse money and points.”

      “Based on the unprecedented four initial failed tests, USAC spent considerable time and resources to assure a fair review and due process was completed to protect the integrity of the series, competition officials and teams competing for the Sprint Car National Championship.”

      “Results from all completed National Sprint Car events are upheld, and all parties remain in good standing going forward to this Saturday’s event at Lawrenceburg (Ind.) Speedway, where stringent ongoing testing will continue to ensure fair competition.”


      “In the event of a similar test result with the same abnormal chemicals detected, the same measures will be followed to confirm those results are accurate.”

      “To assure full transparency of the process that USAC underwent to complete the entire analysis, a team owner meeting will be held on Monday, April 4, at 3:00pm Eastern at the USAC office in Speedway, Indiana. Licensed USAC National Sprint Car series team owners are invited.”

      Keith Kunz pulls cars for USAC Sprints
      Shortly after USAC’s announcement, Keith Kunz commented:

      “After waiting for a decision on this we at KKM have decided that we will not compete in the USAC sprint car series going forward,” the team owner stated via twitter.


      He further clarified, “KKM will still be competing in the USAC Midget Series, just not the sprint series.

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14310

        #18
        Originally posted by flagone View Post
        In addition to inflation...

        anyone else remember that part of Middle School Economics called Supply and Demand?
        Other than a toilet paper type hoarding scenario, there are less DLM now and they aren't allowed to use as many tires, as say 10 years ago. But, based on some info I've gotten, pretty sure the TP analogy applies...
        Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 04-01-2022, 06:02 PM.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • flagone
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2861

          #19
          I am sure that there have been teams hoarding them. But I also know that they have sold more tires each year for the last 4 than ever before. Maybe less Supers but there are still a crap ton limiteds, 604 crates, 602 crates and other tpes of cars using spec and/or open tires. There are also more races every year than ever before ie no off season. It is a whole big mess that has several contributing causes.

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          • Punisher88
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 495

            #20
            It'd definitely help if every series went to a strict 2 tires only across all series. All it would take is Hoosier stepping up and just telling them that's how it's going to be until everything can calm down. But apparently they don't want to either.

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            • Punisher88
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 495

              #21
              Also. As a weekly racer, I'm not racing anywhere this season that doesn't allow a.r. tires. I'm not spending nearly 100 dollars a tire more. Especially with gas and diesel fuel prices where they are. My number 1 track is senoia but with them not allowing Hoosiers. It doesn't make sense to go, when I live 5 miles from eams and they allow them.

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              • GEAR_HEAD
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 3107

                #22
                This inflation is what 81 million people voted in favor of. Supposedly.

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                • flagone
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2861

                  #23
                  Punisher that is the way it is leaning for the near future. We (the series involved in the universal rules meeting at PRI) pressed them for a 3 compound NATIONAL tire rule. And I believe that they are on board with doing that.

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                  • riddle28
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1084

                    #24
                    im not a fan of hoosier at all. theyre a monopoly that makes some not so great products that being said all of the consumables in racing have skyrocketed, sheet metal has literally doubled 60-120 a sheet, fuel is 20-30ish% im a dealer, $5 diesel. its not sustainable

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14310

                      #25
                      Originally posted by flagone View Post
                      Punisher that is the way it is leaning for the near future. We (the series involved in the universal rules meeting at PRI) pressed them for a 3 compound NATIONAL tire rule. And I believe that they are on board with doing that.
                      It's sure going to hurt when a guy has a bunch of good used tires, but they don't have the right numbers on the side.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • xray
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 326

                        #26
                        Originally posted by GEAR_HEAD View Post
                        This inflation is what 81 million people voted in favor of. Supposedly.
                        you "go brandon" pieces of (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) sure are dumb

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                        • zach51
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1362

                          #27
                          The last Hoosier right rear for a full size sprint car I bought in 2009 was $230 at the truck at a world of outlaw race. No telling what it is now. And the WHEELS too, my goodness. If you get into the wall and bend up a RR beadlock and rip a tire that's about a $1,000 hickey!

                          Also, completely unrelated (although maybe not considering it's "going down the drain"), I went to wal-mart yesterday and bought an 80 oz great value brand (Drano knock-off) bottle of drain cleaner. Last one I bought probably 6-8 months ago was $1.82 a jug. $5.52 yesterday.

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                          • Highside Hustler25
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12919

                            #28
                            I just read somewhere that the WoO will be issuing 4 Hoosier tires that they must run until late summer when then they will be issued another 4 for the remainder of the year.
                            8/13/16

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                            • Jerky
                              Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 57

                              #29
                              As long as half the country believes this is anything but corporate greed this will continue. 2021 was a record year for corporate profits, so they are going to keep it up as long as they can get away with it.

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14310

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                                I just read somewhere that the WoO will be issuing 4 Hoosier tires that they must run until late summer when then they will be issued another 4 for the remainder of the year.
                                That was an April Fools
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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