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  • dirty-white-boy
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 996

    #16
    The series has slowly become a joke. If you are a track with a WoO show on schedule what do they bring to the table for you? Come July you could see others drop off (Sorry Hammer and Gordy but you are not getting ROY).

    Brent Larson is 5th points....enough said there!

    Boom better watch out, ole Pumpkin Head is going to take his top 10 points place away by the end of the year.

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    • manwplan
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 351

      #17
      Originally posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
      The series has slowly become a joke. If you are a track with a WoO show on schedule what do they bring to the table for you? Come July you could see others drop off (Sorry Hammer and Gordy but you are not getting ROY).

      Brent Larson is 5th points....enough said there!

      Boom better watch out, ole Pumpkin Head is going to take his top 10 points place away by the end of the year.
      Why would Hammer and Gordy drop off? They are in the top 10 and that pays. In the past the only reason guys running for ROY quit was because in addition to not winning ROY they had no shot at top 10 in points. These 2 clearly do.

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      • Pennsboro32
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 3440

        #18
        Originally posted by manwplan View Post
        Why would Hammer and Gordy drop off? They are in the top 10 and that pays. In the past the only reason guys running for ROY quit was because in addition to not winning ROY they had no shot at top 10 in points. These 2 clearly do.
        Because FUEL. You don't make much money driving 8 hours away every weekend to run 15th. Check at the end might be alright but I'd say it evens out.

        I'm not claiming they will drop off but it wouldn't surprise me either.

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        • BTExpress
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 1208

          #19
          "There is ZERO chance the series goes away. They are making a killing on streaming and the stands are still packed. A couple drivers leaving the series isn’t going to change everything. Their big races such as PDC, USA Nats, World Finals, and so in will still have plenty of guys."

          Agree 100%...Amazes me how many people on this forum want to see the WoO fail. Let's look at some facts. Both series only have ten or so drivers following the their series this year. Yes LOLMS has a few bigger names, but did lose Davenport and Owens. Last week the WoO drew 32, 41 and 42 cars and what looked like pretty full grandstands while Lucas drew 22 and 23 cars and light crowds. The world needs both series and as fans we should want to see both series succeed. I know I look forward to seeing both when they are in my area.

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          • MRM
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 2993

            #20
            Maybe a few of their drivers will decide to come to Smoky Mountain for the Mountain Moonshine Classic Lucas Oil race on June 17-18. It's $50,000 to win the final night.
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            • TS FAN
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 4236

              #21
              I did not see where anyone said series is going away. I said it will be restructured. Big difference

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              • cjsracing
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 836

                #22
                Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                Tires are not going to appear out of thin air. The UMP Summernats are going to see some cancellations too.
                Exactly. Shannon from Hoosier was at our race in Stuart, IA Sunday and gave a very good detailed update on the tire situation.

                1. Shut down to 50% capacity during covid, but racecars kept buying tires so it depleted inventory.
                2. When they came out of the shutdown they expected to replenish the inventory but racers kept buying tires at a higher volume than normal.
                3. The main factory somewhere in Indiana can't find workers to run multiple shifts, that particular county only has .6% unemployment so there is literally no one there to hire.
                4. No off season to try to catch up since there are races in the west and south during the winter months.

                I know as a racer I am guilty of #2, as I bought as many tires as I could find and still buy any that I come across.

                It's just my opinion but Hooiser has to many Late Model Tire options - it should just be the LM20, LM30 and LM40.

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                • dirty-white-boy
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 996

                  #23
                  Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                  "There is ZERO chance the series goes away. They are making a killing on streaming and the stands are still packed. A couple drivers leaving the series isn’t going to change everything. Their big races such as PDC, USA Nats, World Finals, and so in will still have plenty of guys."

                  Agree 100%...Amazes me how many people on this forum want to see the WoO fail. Let's look at some facts. Both series only have ten or so drivers following the their series this year. Yes LOLMS has a few bigger names, but did lose Davenport and Owens. Last week the WoO drew 32, 41 and 42 cars and what looked like pretty full grandstands while Lucas drew 22 and 23 cars and light crowds. The world needs both series and as fans we should want to see both series succeed. I know I look forward to seeing both when they are in my area.

                  IMO more cars showed up because they believe before they left their shop they could beat Max and DErb easier then they could Tmac, Bshepp ect. Sadly top talent drives the smaller racers away.

                  The top 6 at Port Royal were all "local/regional' racers except the 111v. When has that happened last on a "National touring series"?

                  I dont want to see it fail, but there is not room for 3 "top" series. End of story!

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                  • Pennsboro32
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 3440

                    #24
                    There's a lot more super late models in PA than there is in Iowa. PA and Illinois are like the two healthiest states for DLM racing.

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                    • fryefan
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3547

                      #25
                      As someone mentioned earlier, it is an advantage to be able to go to a race and not know who is going to win.

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                      • champion24
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3065

                        #26
                        Woo & mainly WRG aren't going anywhere because Woo sprints make a killing! Before a single streaming package is sold!

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                        • ZERO25
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2018
                          • 5240

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cjsracing View Post
                          Exactly. Shannon from Hoosier was at our race in Stuart, IA Sunday and gave a very good detailed update on the tire situation.

                          1. Shut down to 50% capacity during covid, but racecars kept buying tires so it depleted inventory.
                          2. When they came out of the shutdown they expected to replenish the inventory but racers kept buying tires at a higher volume than normal.
                          3. The main factory somewhere in Indiana can't find workers to run multiple shifts, that particular county only has .6% unemployment so there is literally no one there to hire.
                          4. No off season to try to catch up since there are races in the west and south during the winter months.

                          I know as a racer I am guilty of #2, as I bought as many tires as I could find and still buy any that I come across.

                          It's just my opinion but Hooiser has to many Late Model Tire options - it should just be the LM20, LM30 and LM40.
                          Two words........Thanks Brandon!

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                          • Jim11h
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1501

                            #28
                            Pennsboro, I forget what they get fuel money but 2 day shows they get same money each day. Every 900 miles o put roughly $680 in semi, 120 gallons.

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                            • Tireguy17
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1151

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                              Two words........Thanks Brandon!
                              This is not a political problem. Unemployment rates keep dropping, there aren't enough people to handle overall consumer demand.

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                              • Jim11h
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 1501

                                #30
                                You believe low unemployment rates root cause then I've got some prime property for you. There's still many not working they just aren't statistics because their government benefits wore out. Drugs are huge issues and many heroine & meth heads that used to work before being locked down to self medicate to point they are now. We didn't mysteriously come up with millions more jobs than have people

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